btw

@agag not murder if someone plans a coup against you and the state

kik3s stole israelite history

that was my argument

edomites

can you back up that they were planning a coup against him and the state

@agag You're a pragmatist, why couldn't that be morally good?

K so that means you see nothing wrong with the CIA

Since it’s out of the same necessity

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 just because something is pragmatic doesn't mean it's necessarily morally good

the lesser of two evils is still an evil

Because you support the shootings of clerks working for the SA

And supporters of hitler

@agag not really because people can only speculate, but there was no other reason to do so

For reasons of national security

for power...

So clearly you shouldn’t have a problem with intelligence agencies

He was already chancellor at the time

And ?

they were loyal to him in theory if Rohm was

https://youtu.be/wYQ7dMg3u9M

in a coalition government

^

guess who else he murdered besides Röhm

a jew and a child torture fan

He murdered women and children

or got rid of some other way

bashing ns

clown world

i'm not working for the NSA, goy!

@agag It does. Whichever option is more pragmatic is morally 'good.' But w.e I don't think you're a utilitarian.

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 I'm not a strict utilitarian, there are times where utility is outweighed by other things

Yes they subvert countries. America is not the first country to be invaded.

the government shouldn't pursue utility when it violates natural rights

my argument was if it was done for the prevention of civil war then it was prudent

Bible > utility

if it was done for power then I agree it would be an evil act

and if it's done for the prevention of terrorism would it not also be prudent?

but I don't think he needed more power at that point, if Rohm was loyal that is

the sa loved him