Then what is the point of speech if not to transfer and transmit ideas? @Leiro レイロ

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ epic style <:cooley:497456138418126858>

@WizardLizardInABlizzard it is the point, I don't disagree with that, but if such a idea were to induce such a major reaction to society, the process must be gradual and not immediate

Why? If it happened it must have been because there were repressed ideologies

true, but again depends on the context

`Everyone should be able to voice their opinion even if it's hateful but it's up to the reader to choose if they want to read it or not`
@NotKana why?

it may not be necessarily so

@Leiro レイロ "hate speech" is an Orwellian concept

The attempt to destroy something as essential to the human condition as hate is insane.

The opposite of hate is not love, it's indifference

Who dictates context?

I've given up on pens tbh, that was the first time I had used a pen in like a year, outcome not surprising XD. Back to pencils it is.

@Noxar which is how it's so useful

Free speech is an arbitrary right

Impossible to justify

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ how the fuck do you "snap" a pen

Because it pissed me off @Noxar

How so? @Quasi

Pencils? What is this first grade of primary

Pencils are cool

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ what pissed you off lol

The pen not working XD

Your inability to write with em?

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Every pen I have ever used ends up broken.

>probably forgot to insert the fucking ink into it

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lolno

@Noxar true, but in 1984 "hate speech" was anything anti-establishment. It's fine to be anti-establishment, but our country as well on the values of democracy and free speech. We don't allow ideas to have a big impact on society, that's why in my country if such a view was presented the social balance would go to shit and result in anarchy

Pens are too advanced of a technology for the Anglos

I'm saying this from the view of where I live, not the textbook definition of free speech

@WizardLizardInABlizzard How so? You're asking me to prove a negative. free speech as a right is an assertion

Thought crimes should never be a thing

__ever__

Why not?

@Leiro レイロ

>We don't allow ideas to have big impact

So the only speech allowed is Useless NPC small talk, no serious discussion, no debate, no differing opinions

Only a "what's the weather" is fucking allowed

Amazing lol

Who said anything about comitting crime with thought?

We're talking about free speech

Can you justify free speech?

To dictate what you think is communist levels of government appointed life

not in an-com

@Noxar it is, but this change as I said should happensover time without causing major change to society without immediate effect, that's what I support.

Nor is that an argument