Message from @Mahojo

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2018-10-19 19:38:56 UTC  

Why reject that?

2018-10-19 19:39:02 UTC  

>nazis were authcent technically

2018-10-19 19:39:04 UTC  

pragmatism is utilitarian practical ideology

2018-10-19 19:39:09 UTC  

Third position doesnt reject pragmatism

2018-10-19 19:39:19 UTC  

yes it does actually

2018-10-19 19:39:19 UTC  

NS on the political compass is pretty borderline

2018-10-19 19:39:20 UTC  

Root centrism; when someone's individual ideas about society are on different parts of the spectrum and mean that their net position 'adds up' to the centre. or Secondary centrism; when someone's ideologies (groups of ideas) are on different parts of the political spectrum and 'add up 'to the centre

2018-10-19 19:39:24 UTC  

because pragmatism is based on utilitarianism

2018-10-19 19:39:29 UTC  

Which is?

2018-10-19 19:39:30 UTC  

to be practical is based on efficiency

2018-10-19 19:39:33 UTC  

I'm a secondary centrist

2018-10-19 19:39:34 UTC  

efficiency is based on optimization

2018-10-19 19:39:36 UTC  

Idk what utilitarianism is

2018-10-19 19:39:38 UTC  

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2018-10-19 19:39:42 UTC  

optimization relies on utilitarian theory

2018-10-19 19:39:58 UTC  

Utilitarianism is basically being for the majority

2018-10-19 19:40:04 UTC  

Oh

2018-10-19 19:40:06 UTC  

Hi guys

2018-10-19 19:40:08 UTC  

How would you all define third position?

2018-10-19 19:40:10 UTC  

What’s so wrong with that

2018-10-19 19:40:12 UTC  

sup

2018-10-19 19:40:19 UTC  

yes, utilitarians want to optimize "well being" or some other abstract economic term

2018-10-19 19:40:20 UTC  

Relativist over here yeets on your dumbass but respects your right to be a dumbass

2018-10-19 19:40:24 UTC  

IDK what third position is

2018-10-19 19:40:25 UTC  

Fascists do not want to optimize well being

2018-10-19 19:40:27 UTC  

we believe in struggle

2018-10-19 19:40:30 UTC  

to achieve an ideal

2018-10-19 19:40:36 UTC  

we don't want comfort actually

2018-10-19 19:40:39 UTC  

comfort is viewed as for the weak

2018-10-19 19:40:45 UTC  

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2018-10-19 19:40:46 UTC  

I’d like comfort sometimes

2018-10-19 19:40:56 UTC  

Fascism gay

2018-10-19 19:40:58 UTC  

I don’t want it to be a constant struggle

2018-10-19 19:41:00 UTC  

capitalism gay

2018-10-19 19:41:00 UTC  

"We can discuss peace when the war is through"

2018-10-19 19:41:04 UTC  

minarchists are rockefeller stooges

2018-10-19 19:41:27 UTC  

unironically that's where this ideology started gaining steam in the early 20th century, rockefeller think tanks

2018-10-19 19:41:36 UTC  

Is war a pause between peace or is peace a pause between war

2018-10-19 19:41:49 UTC  

@Métropolice second one

2018-10-19 19:41:55 UTC  

fascism doesn't relish war per se, but they relish discomfort created by achieving difficult things

2018-10-19 19:41:57 UTC  

@mods poll this