Message from @Seeker of Truth

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2019-04-06 14:18:55 UTC  

similar to this, but the sun and moon aren't locked together as shown here and there is a spiraling in towards the center and then back out from the center which is not shown here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/564091675627094026/sun_moon_over_AE_map.gif

2019-04-06 14:19:16 UTC  

Ok so then the sun is like a plane going over our heads

2019-04-06 14:20:03 UTC  

at varying altitudes within the firmament / heavens

2019-04-06 14:20:53 UTC  

How would you see the moon during daylight if it is only on the night/dark side of the earth?

2019-04-06 14:20:56 UTC  

@Bodhisattva I saw you in Seeking Truth.

2019-04-06 14:21:23 UTC  

There is a flaw in this explanation because when a object moves away from you, it will appear smaller and the sun does not

2019-04-06 14:21:51 UTC  

On top of that the sun appears to move under /down the horizon when it set's

2019-04-06 14:22:11 UTC  

My fb friend Alexis Mercado shared this post, and I would also like to share it. And good morning everyone.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/564092495030386688/image0.jpg

2019-04-06 14:22:11 UTC  

its not a flaw, its just your lack of understanding

2019-04-06 14:22:25 UTC  

it really depends on your position and the sun position

2019-04-06 14:22:35 UTC  

and atmospheric conditions

2019-04-06 14:22:37 UTC  

Do explain.

2019-04-06 14:22:56 UTC  

(how much moisture is in the air, dirt, etc.

2019-04-06 14:23:09 UTC  

altitude of the observer

2019-04-06 14:23:23 UTC  

atmospheric lensing

2019-04-06 14:23:34 UTC  

)

2019-04-06 14:23:45 UTC  

That's an explanation of why it disappears, not why it doesn't shrink.

2019-04-06 14:24:14 UTC  

I disagree.

2019-04-06 14:24:26 UTC  

the shape of the firmament

2019-04-06 14:24:37 UTC  

and lensing appearance

2019-04-06 14:24:56 UTC  

why the sun can appear larger when it is "setting"

2019-04-06 14:25:01 UTC  

(which is doesn't really set)

2019-04-06 14:25:17 UTC  

The sun appearing larger is an illusion.

2019-04-06 14:25:27 UTC  

correct

2019-04-06 14:25:37 UTC  

when its moving away that is

2019-04-06 14:25:56 UTC  

at least some of the time

2019-04-06 14:26:05 UTC  

there are various factors to consider

2019-04-06 14:26:17 UTC  

its not always this way or that

2019-04-06 14:26:21 UTC  

all of the time

2019-04-06 14:27:00 UTC  

Somebody did an experiment where they took two circles of identical size and placed one 40 feet above the observer, the other 40 feet ahead on the horizon. The observers insisted the circle on the horizon was 2, 3, even 4 times larger than the one overhead.

2019-04-06 14:27:46 UTC  

the shape and limitations of our eyes must be considered as well, yes

2019-04-06 14:27:53 UTC  

/ how they work

2019-04-06 14:28:36 UTC  

When the earth is flat and the sun is in fact making this circle path and is moving away from us, it should not move under the horizon, it should continue to move away in the distance until we can't see it

2019-04-06 14:29:57 UTC  

I also find it interesting how the sun doesn't appear to slow down as it sets.

2019-04-06 14:29:57 UTC  

the observer might need a better position, stronger optics and better atmospheric conditions....

2019-04-06 14:30:05 UTC  

to zoom in / better see the sun

2019-04-06 14:30:54 UTC  

and what would we see if we have that ?

2019-04-06 14:31:55 UTC  

would depend on various things, including how parallel / aligned with the sun's trajectory the observer is / direction faced, etc.

2019-04-06 14:32:21 UTC  

Huh.

2019-04-06 14:32:40 UTC  

So the sun is on a curved path, right?

2019-04-06 14:33:11 UTC  

it is thought that the firmament / heavens are curved so in a way, yes