@Hamburger Guy ok so basically flat earthers

That was irrelevant

My focus is epidemical diseases.... ie smallpox the plague etc etc.

Flat earther are irrelevant

@mixmasterJ and i explained that the ruling powers would never want to do this for "population control".

lolé

ah sorry

but they certainly would...

Did you read my text?

Think about this.. medicine up until 100 years ago was dangerous and increased disease injury and mortality.

Bloodletting and insane dosages of various poisons

That was simple human error

For thousands of years, it FUNCTIONED as a tool of depopulation

in the common viewpoint this is... accidental

People will think the same 1000 years from now about our chemo and radio therapy

I don't believe it was accidental but rather by design

That doesn't mean anything

Mobile why

It made me spam

@mixmasterJ depopulation was a bad thing for ruling powers

Yeah

The Black Death crumbled the institution of feudalism

Shifting the balance of powers

My viewpoint is... if medicine HADN'T been lethal I honestly believe civilization wouldn't have surivived. In england for example circa 1800s.... women were popping kids out at 12 and didn't really stop....

if it wasn't for their "stupidly conceived medicine" i believe there's no way society could have continued without disastrous logistical failure...

They've always been doing that, most of them just died young. Medicine allowed for all 12 of them to live but after a while they slow down.

Medicine in fact greatly increased the odds that those children would die.

How so? Which one?

Between venesection and... in the case of the 1800s.... mercury arsenic and antimony were given in doses that border on lethal today.

So then how do you explain the massive population growth?

bloodletting was a primary form of medicine.... and they would bleed the sick or injured until they fainted

ah

because... our species is incredibly resilient

For thousands of years our population was roughly the same

seriously, it is a fact that their systems of medicine killed and maimed and accomplished no good outside of placebo

Where was our resilience then?

the population explosion is a result of enormous changes that occured in the last 200 years.

That enormous change was medicine and diet.

Medicine was a major factor... but the biggest change was getting rid of bloodletting and dramatically lowering the dosages of some of the poisons they prescribed.

Ie... medicine became significantly less lethal in the last 100 years

generally speaking