Message from @Hamburger Guy

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2019-04-08 13:01:36 UTC  

And I already repeated myself enough about the High Middle Ages

2019-04-08 13:02:03 UTC  

@mixmasterJ the Black Death only spread to China under the Yuan Dynasty

2019-04-08 13:02:12 UTC  

Not the native centralized dynasties

2019-04-08 13:02:28 UTC  

I haven't studied its progress through the east much

2019-04-08 13:02:37 UTC  

Well you should

2019-04-08 13:02:55 UTC  

but in Europe I know there were real conspiracies to spread it, and the recommended treatments were harmful/lethal

2019-04-08 13:02:55 UTC  

Because even for a eurocentric idea it falls flat quickly

2019-04-08 13:03:19 UTC  

the pope issued proclamations telling people to inhale sewer gas to cure it

2019-04-08 13:03:20 UTC  

Are you suggesting the Black Death doesn't kill?

2019-04-08 13:03:34 UTC  

well going back to my original theory...

2019-04-08 13:03:41 UTC  

The Pope would want people to live

2019-04-08 13:03:47 UTC  

Not necessarily

2019-04-08 13:03:51 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-08 13:04:06 UTC  

sometimes they want more, sometimes less..

2019-04-08 13:04:07 UTC  

The black death not only destroyed feudalism but also the Papacy

2019-04-08 13:04:24 UTC  

By shifting the balance of powers to the king and the towns

2019-04-08 13:05:08 UTC  

I believe they were thinking fairly long term...

2019-04-08 13:05:16 UTC  

Since the black death was the Protestant reformation and absolutism

2019-04-08 13:05:21 UTC  

yes

2019-04-08 13:05:35 UTC  

In other countries religious institutions still rule

2019-04-08 13:05:48 UTC  

it was a major transition and i believe it was designed

2019-04-08 13:06:05 UTC  

They are really bad at it then because the Papacy has no power

2019-04-08 13:06:07 UTC  

the reformation introduced iatrochemistry on a large scale... the foundations of modern medicine

2019-04-08 13:07:09 UTC  

suddenly everything that came out of a mine could be sold as medicine, because the "tag along" of the reformation was empirical medicine vs worshipping Galen and etc

2019-04-08 13:07:57 UTC  

which practically speaking meant that they introduced mercury, arsenic, etc etc as primary treatments alongside venesection

2019-04-08 13:08:21 UTC  

So?

2019-04-08 13:08:58 UTC  

What does this have to do with the Black Death being a conspiracy perpetrated by the pope

2019-04-08 13:09:44 UTC  

Well the black death was just a more extreme form "population regulation"

2019-04-08 13:09:58 UTC  

You know what

2019-04-08 13:10:01 UTC  

DM me

2019-04-08 13:10:04 UTC  

sure thang

2019-04-08 13:10:10 UTC  

This is gonna take a while

2019-04-08 13:10:13 UTC  

lol right

2019-04-08 13:10:14 UTC  

The black death was more extreme from the closely populated cities and conditions of the time.

2019-04-08 13:10:29 UTC  

Including the fact that they believed that cats and dogs were the cause.

2019-04-08 13:10:40 UTC  

Fleas u know

2019-04-08 13:10:43 UTC  

Well thats how we got the rat theory eh

2019-04-08 13:10:52 UTC  

So they went on to kill about 200000 dogs n cats

2019-04-08 13:11:09 UTC  

Kek

2019-04-08 13:11:10 UTC  

which didnt work