Message from @VInyl
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Yes that too
BAN CARS
Yeah well that too
That's not to say that an organised group wouldn't be able to attain guns however
But yeah, I guess 40 wounded and 5 dead (last I heard) is pretty lucky
:^)
Last I heard as 4 including the attacker
Was*
It went up to 5
I think someone's life support was shut off
I think if guns were legal in the UK it either wouldnt have happened or people could have defended themselves.
Against a car maybe not
Against the man who was stabbed.
The officer who was wounded was armed I'm fairly sure
I could be wrong on that however
I doubt it, very few officers in the UK carry guns
I think
correct me if I'm wrong I don't know shit about that island
officers around Parliament tend to
Pretty sure he was just your standard patrol cop
A Trump Supporter almost got stabbed by some fanatic anti-Trump but was stopped in his tracks by the guy who just so happened to be carrying.
I correct myself the officer was unarmed
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[11:03 AM] Megumin: I think if guns were legal in the UK it either wouldnt have happened or people could have defended themselves.
[11:03 AM] Papa Pope Doge II: Against a car maybe not
[11:04 AM] Megumin: Against the man who was stabbed.
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Well, do you really think that if guns were legal, the offender would be just carrying a knife? Do you really think that guns prevent such thing? How many mass shooting there was in the US with far more victims than this event that happened in the UK?
The thing is, UK is secluded from other countries, it has no direct border and they can prevent most of the gun entering the country. What that wouldn't be possible in the US is very much possible there. I think their ban is pretty efficient...
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if guns were legal in bongistan then ISIS and cohorts would be the first to obtain them, and on a larger scale than they have now
Do you really think that banning guns is better than allowing civillians to protect themselves?
Ask any American police officer, they almost always recommend people to carry because they simply can't react fast enough to a situation
There is almost ALWAYS around a 30 minute wait time for police response, because they can't just "Appear"
Also I do believe the rate of violent crime in the UK is in fact HIGHER than it is in the US, although committed with murder weapons other than firearms, do correct me if I'm wrong though.
US states with less restrictions are also statistically safer than others.
I personally believe there's a correlation
You believe the rate of violent crime in the UK is higher than it is in the US?
Last I checked, do correct me if I'm wrong.
I need to check myself, it is correct, that actually shocks me.
Forgive me for using someone else's argument but I think Skallagrim is a pretty sensible person, and he words things better than I do so here:
Total violent crime in the UK is roughly 3 times more than in US
But the murder rate is far lower
That's why we resort to fisticuffs