Message from @VInyl

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2017-03-25 09:57:35 UTC  

Yes that too

2017-03-25 09:57:36 UTC  

BAN CARS

2017-03-25 09:57:36 UTC  

Yeah well that too

2017-03-25 09:57:53 UTC  

That's not to say that an organised group wouldn't be able to attain guns however

2017-03-25 09:57:55 UTC  

But yeah, I guess 40 wounded and 5 dead (last I heard) is pretty lucky

2017-03-25 09:57:58 UTC  

:^)

2017-03-25 09:58:23 UTC  

Last I heard as 4 including the attacker

2017-03-25 09:58:27 UTC  

Was*

2017-03-25 09:58:28 UTC  

It went up to 5

2017-03-25 09:58:37 UTC  

I think someone's life support was shut off

2017-03-25 10:03:13 UTC  

I think if guns were legal in the UK it either wouldnt have happened or people could have defended themselves.

2017-03-25 10:03:57 UTC  

Against a car maybe not

2017-03-25 10:04:07 UTC  

Against the man who was stabbed.

2017-03-25 10:04:25 UTC  

The officer who was wounded was armed I'm fairly sure

2017-03-25 10:04:32 UTC  

I could be wrong on that however

2017-03-25 10:04:47 UTC  

I doubt it, very few officers in the UK carry guns

2017-03-25 10:04:52 UTC  

I think

2017-03-25 10:05:00 UTC  

correct me if I'm wrong I don't know shit about that island

2017-03-25 10:05:04 UTC  

officers around Parliament tend to

2017-03-25 10:05:38 UTC  

Pretty sure he was just your standard patrol cop

2017-03-25 10:05:50 UTC  

Anyway, something quite similar almost happened pretty recently

2017-03-25 10:06:50 UTC  

A Trump Supporter almost got stabbed by some fanatic anti-Trump but was stopped in his tracks by the guy who just so happened to be carrying.

2017-03-25 10:07:01 UTC  

I correct myself the officer was unarmed

2017-03-25 11:50:47 UTC  

```
[11:03 AM] Megumin: I think if guns were legal in the UK it either wouldnt have happened or people could have defended themselves.
[11:03 AM] Papa Pope Doge II: Against a car maybe not
[11:04 AM] Megumin: Against the man who was stabbed.
```
Well, do you really think that if guns were legal, the offender would be just carrying a knife? Do you really think that guns prevent such thing? How many mass shooting there was in the US with far more victims than this event that happened in the UK?

2017-03-25 11:54:01 UTC  

The thing is, UK is secluded from other countries, it has no direct border and they can prevent most of the gun entering the country. What that wouldn't be possible in the US is very much possible there. I think their ban is pretty efficient...

2017-03-25 13:20:06 UTC  

^

2017-03-25 17:27:31 UTC  

if guns were legal in bongistan then ISIS and cohorts would be the first to obtain them, and on a larger scale than they have now

2017-03-25 20:34:27 UTC  

Do you really think that banning guns is better than allowing civillians to protect themselves?

2017-03-25 20:35:29 UTC  

Ask any American police officer, they almost always recommend people to carry because they simply can't react fast enough to a situation

2017-03-25 20:36:45 UTC  

There is almost ALWAYS around a 30 minute wait time for police response, because they can't just "Appear"

2017-03-25 20:47:08 UTC  

Also I do believe the rate of violent crime in the UK is in fact HIGHER than it is in the US, although committed with murder weapons other than firearms, do correct me if I'm wrong though.

2017-03-25 20:47:42 UTC  

US states with less restrictions are also statistically safer than others.

2017-03-25 20:47:57 UTC  

I personally believe there's a correlation

2017-03-25 20:48:54 UTC  

You believe the rate of violent crime in the UK is higher than it is in the US?

2017-03-25 20:50:24 UTC  

Last I checked, do correct me if I'm wrong.

2017-03-25 20:51:32 UTC  

I need to check myself, it is correct, that actually shocks me.

2017-03-25 20:53:41 UTC  

Forgive me for using someone else's argument but I think Skallagrim is a pretty sensible person, and he words things better than I do so here:

2017-03-25 21:08:09 UTC  

Total violent crime in the UK is roughly 3 times more than in US

2017-03-25 21:08:22 UTC  

But the murder rate is far lower

2017-03-26 06:55:23 UTC  

That's why we resort to fisticuffs