Message from @Israel destroyer Pequod

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2017-06-05 08:38:24 UTC  

in many fields, agriculture, medical (especially caregiver, we recruits spanish, etc)

2017-06-05 08:38:29 UTC  

and in administrations too

2017-06-05 08:39:34 UTC  

it's a complex mess

2017-06-05 08:39:47 UTC  

and those people didn't deserved to be treated like that

2017-06-05 08:40:35 UTC  

they would much rather wait a couple of month and start to work or at least do some voluntering to contribute back

2017-06-05 08:41:40 UTC  

not be parked in ghettos, projects, etc like beasts and be sidelined like they are actually

2017-06-05 08:43:54 UTC  

I realize the few I met can't represent a majority or the whole refugees, but still it's a sentiments that was shared more than once

2017-06-05 08:44:21 UTC  

I get it

2017-06-05 08:45:32 UTC  

They are refugees though

2017-06-05 08:45:47 UTC  

Its not supposed to be extravagant

2017-06-05 08:46:25 UTC  

Slow systems usually come with shit like that

2017-06-05 08:46:29 UTC  

yeah, they fleed the horror of wars and I'm sure that the situation they live right now is much, much better. But from my perspective, it's not the way we should treat human beings

2017-06-05 08:48:24 UTC  

I mean, there's nothing done to help them to integrate, participate, etc in their foster country

2017-06-05 08:49:27 UTC  

they meet a social worker twice a week, they can't really go out of their ghettos because they can't do anything (no money) and they have no ID

2017-06-05 08:49:58 UTC  

Still beats death

2017-06-05 08:49:59 UTC  

and that's pretty much their live since they arrived

2017-06-05 08:50:18 UTC  

true, but would you want to be in their shoes though ?

2017-06-05 08:50:58 UTC  

Hell i'd kill to get some foreign government to give me free shit and a bed to sleep on

2017-06-05 08:51:00 UTC  

they have pretty much the same rights as people that are in prison right now.

2017-06-05 08:51:14 UTC  

cool, they are alive, fed, they have a bed... wow

2017-06-05 08:51:28 UTC  

Especially if i lived in a place like the middle east

2017-06-05 08:52:23 UTC  

Its not even close to prision

2017-06-05 08:52:26 UTC  

well, go in another country and commit a crime. you'll get your free meals and a bed.

2017-06-05 08:52:37 UTC  

you'll even have brand new clothes

2017-06-05 08:52:53 UTC  

They're free to leave if they choose

2017-06-05 08:53:01 UTC  

not even

2017-06-05 08:53:15 UTC  

as I said, they are parked

2017-06-05 08:53:41 UTC  

they can't really go out because they barely speak a few french words, they have no ID, nothing

2017-06-05 08:54:04 UTC  

if they go out before they get their status recognized with a piece of paper, they are illegals

2017-06-05 08:54:26 UTC  

police can arrests them

2017-06-05 08:54:56 UTC  

how is that any different than a modern day prison ?

2017-06-05 08:55:33 UTC  

Once again they are refugees

2017-06-05 08:56:03 UTC  

once again, as long as they don't have a piece of paper to prove that, they are illegals

2017-06-05 08:56:18 UTC  

As long as they get shit to live and are treated well i don't see a problem with it

2017-06-05 08:56:39 UTC  

well my issue with that is that I don't deem that they are treated well

2017-06-05 08:57:41 UTC  

Fair enough

2017-06-05 08:57:56 UTC  

I'm not even speaking of family that are separated because some people could make it here and some don't

2017-06-05 08:58:40 UTC  

They didn't have to go

2017-06-05 08:59:15 UTC  

I wish things would be better for them. Like, they wouldn't have to flee their country in the first place, but since they are already here, we should do something to help them to integrate

2017-06-05 08:59:40 UTC  

that would create jobs to teach them french, our customs, etc

2017-06-05 08:59:47 UTC  

Yeah but integration takes time