If you don't have anything to offer me or the rest of society you have no value to me

You literally are a strain on society

You know, this really only reinforces that ancaps are irredeemably shit people

I'm not an ancap

Not me neither

@Silverfang no it doesnt because I dont owe you or anyone shit for being alive

You sure like their beliefs though

>ancap

Oof bud

Nationalist libertarian

> You know, this really only reinforces that ancaps are irredeemably shit people
@Silverfang

Resorting to personal insults and assumptions.
You've lost.

Society doesn't owe anyone anything just cause they're alive

Also not an ancap.

Constitutional capitalist here

I take care of my grandparents because I am generous and I can, not because I have to

No bro, y'all ust have no arguments worth refuting at this point, you've literally said that people are worthless

Right because the druggie in the corner stoned out of his mind is worth as much as me that works every day.

Hard pass.

They are until they prove otherwise

Generosity and compassion is actually effective, government/societal forced care is not and never has been

Believing that people are inherently worthless beyond their ability to operate as machines is the worst take in history and I'm not surprised it takes an entire server of hard right conservatives to even begin to argue against a single socialist

I'm not hard right

i dont think any of us are hard right

Yeah you are buddy, if you believe this you're a conservative

i think most of us are dead center

@Silverfang work value is 0 until proven otherwise

Human life is precious though. These are seperate things

Only if you think american republicans are "center"

It’s never your successful friends that post communist quotes

^^^^^^^^

truth

I'm actually fairly left in terms of social issues. I just do not believe it is the government or societies place to tell me or anyone else what we are worth or where I have to dedicate my time, money, and care

> Believing that people are inherently worthless beyond their ability to operate as machines is the worst take in history and I'm not surprised it takes an entire server of hard right conservatives to even begin to argue against a single socialist
@Silverfang

People are inherently worthless if they don't advance and grow as a person.

I mean, I can literally direct you to a millionaire who makes youtube videos in support of communism if you want

Not even socialism, straight up communism

youtuber

literally generates currency off people watching and listening

No, he makes youtube videos, he is not a youtuber

or gains donations from them

If you don't work

You deserve nothing

thats not working

^