Message from @jaguarknight
Discord ID: 706319312075620412
I came here to cyber bully and chew bubblegum and I’m all out of bubblegum
*And then I grew up*
Eradicate communists and burn their writing, it's the right thing to do.
For instance, I can see how he sees this, after starting out and getting disenfranchised with his world, he's resorted to blaming others for his failures or maybe even legitimate grievances
But I'll never agree with him on communism being any good
Not a single "point" that has been brought up has been intelligent or even approaching rational. So far we have had
"The Nazis were actaully socialists despite all evidence to the contrary"
"Any kind of intervention is bad and corporations are pure and altruistic organizations that would treat us all absolutely fairly."
"The government isn't part of society, it's a seperate entity that exists solely to oppress the good corporations that have our best interests at heart UwU"
"Humans have no value beyond what they produce"
"It's not okay for people to proffit off my labor except when I either choose to work for less than I'm worth and there is never EVER a situation where a person would have to work for someone against their will."
"Actually It's totally okay for multi billionaires to profit off the exploitation of thousands of people because if they're rich they must have earned that and not been born into advantage"
> For instance, I can see how he sees this, after starting out and getting disenfranchised with his world, he's resorted to blaming others for his failures or maybe even legitimate grievances
> But I'll never agree with him on communism being any good
@jaguarknight
Exactly. I started out angry and feeling I was owed more than I had. So as I grew I learned the way to get what I wanted was to work hard and make a name for myself. I gradually shifted from agreeing with communists and their "To each according to their needs" mentality to "And to each according to what he has earned"
All of your arguments ignore reality entirely
And if you ever had to argue against an actual, prepared, sober, leftists you would be sent running
the thing about communism is everyone works and nobody gets anything for the work
False, the way it should work is everyone works and every one profits off that work
> Not a single "point" that has been brought up has been intelligent or even approaching rational. So far we have had
> "The Nazis were actaully socialists despite all evidence to the contrary"
> "Any kind of intervention is bad and corporations are pure and altruistic organizations that would treat us all absolutely fairly."
> "The government isn't part of society, it's a seperate entity that exists solely to oppress the good corporations that have our best interests at heart UwU"
> "Humans have no value beyond what they produce"
> "It's not okay for people to proffit off my labor except when I either choose to work for less than I'm worth and there is never EVER a situation where a person would have to work for someone against their will."
> "Actually It's totally okay for multi billionaires to profit off the exploitation of thousands of people because if they're rich they must have earned that and not been born into advantage"
@Silverfang
Because communists never profited off the exploitation of others. Because communists have never forced people to work against their will. Because communists never punished those that refused or couldn't work.
> And if you ever had to argue against an actual, prepared, sober, leftists you would be sent running
@Silverfang
Doubtful, since I've yet to meet prepared or mentally capable leftists that didnt just shriek about priviledge
Communism by definition can not have a dictator
Lmfao
Yet it always seems too
No but they can have "presidents" with dictatorial powers
> Not a single "point" that has been brought up has been intelligent or even approaching rational. So far we have had
> "The Nazis were actaully socialists despite all evidence to the contrary"
> "Any kind of intervention is bad and corporations are pure and altruistic organizations that would treat us all absolutely fairly."
> "The government isn't part of society, it's a seperate entity that exists solely to oppress the good corporations that have our best interests at heart UwU"
> "Humans have no value beyond what they produce"
> "It's not okay for people to proffit off my labor except when I either choose to work for less than I'm worth and there is never EVER a situation where a person would have to work for someone against their will."
> "Actually It's totally okay for multi billionaires to profit off the exploitation of thousands of people because if they're rich they must have earned that and not been born into advantage"
@Silverfang
1 National Socialist German Workers Party, not all evidence contradicts
2 free market should decide, no corporation is altruistic
3 government is a part of society and doesn't have our buy rather their best interests at heart
4 yes, value is determined by the individual
5 that's totally off target
6 you just threw yourself for a loop
this is a food bank line in venezuela... such great polticial platform
Every single communist party has had a dictator
Yes even Marx advocated for it
Man I can feel my hatred for communists melting away! I think I'm ready to surrender all my rights and become another cog to be tread on! Sign me up, Marx Daddy!
@Foxhound
Hold up
I can't say Daddy but you can
That's some bull...
*I'm being sarcastic as fuck*
Show me on this anatolically correct doll where the big mean ancaps hurt you
Every single time communism has been introduced, there was a collapse in society, mass civilian deaths, significant drop in productivity, and discord was sown amongst the population
No one ever benefited except, GASP those in charge!!!
As if power corrupts, that sounds like what we've been saying all along
Lmfao yes that great depression that happened because bankers fucked up oh no bro
EMPTY GROCERY STORES ONLY EXIST IN COMMY COUNTRIES
Because Capitalism failed
I'd like the actual article behind that link, thanks
I believe in the community helping each other out which is why I help my fellow brother by VOLUNTEERING you know
Helping others without being forced
And I have built ramps for the disabled out of my own pocket
And that's ignoring all the impoverished capitalist countries, not just the ones that have profited off all the labor of the countries they exploit
@Silverfang >provided a well written article on nazi socialist connect that you immediately shot down as propaganda
> intervention is bad
> governments provided in our examples are bad, small government has been brought up but you say it's bad because you disagree with survival of the fittest in regards to work value
> human life and work value can be seperate things, I've said it several times
> people can profit off my labor if its voluntary and I agree to my cut. Taxes, communism, socialism, are involuntary and are extortion
> using the word exploitation based on voluntary work exchange for money doesnt make the fact you voluntarily working for the corporations bad. Itd be bad if people were forced to work (like in a communist country). But they arent. The 3rd worlders that maybe exploited are only done so because we have government controls on our labor here that makes it economically smarter to export labor
But not by somebody forcibly taking my earnings and what I have produced just to spend it