AWD 240z instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQjXsvEhLyQ

@Leaf me alone that sound tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ehf0gdoDE

@🥁 ✋🏻

my Suzuki Samurai buddy bought a Miata

I was looking at one next to me in traffic yesterday, they are so small

Yeah they're tiny

Alright you faggots I am willing to exchange gun info and gun advice for auto info and auto advice.

I want to know good options for utilitarian 4x4s that aren't trucks

By not trucks, do you mean unibody as opposed to body-on frame?

Other good questions would be how large you would like it to be, do you prefer NA/Japanese/European, how fast/fuel efficient you require, and what the initial and ultimate purpose are?

also budget

Ideally about tye size of a Jeep CJ, no preference on place, don't care about it being fast nor efficient, purpose is to have a trusty vehicle I can rely upon for heavy use as an utilitarian vehicle so driving on dirt, stones, small rivers that don't reach door level so I can pack up and go innawoods for shooting and hunting.
Budget would be 3000, 5000, 10000 USD, I want the best options for each price.

@Leaf me alone

v8 4.0L with 182hp and 233 torque. 14mpg average. under $5k

^Land Rovers have been favorites for overland expeditions for a while

price of replacement parts might be an issue in the US

yeah they have their issues too

electrical issues as I recall

yeah that's right. i couldn't remember what it was but yeah. that's the thing people mention

but in that case you just get the most basic version you can, in the best overall condition

for real. if the price range you're looking for @NotATF is really btween 3 and 10k you can get a """perfect""" condition one of these

also worth looking into a toyota landcruiser, any year I believe

the later ones are heavy and bad on gas, but are built like tanks

just searched land rover for sale with lowest miles and found this

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-1998-Land-Rover-Discovery-c7954#listing=203165134

idk shit about toyotas

Here is a good site for people who take their trucks on long off and on road journeys:
https://expeditionportal.com/forum/

Lots of good information on specific models and their suitability offroad, builds, interesting solutions to common problems, etc.

nice

went to a thread and all the picture links are broken. i fukcing hate photobucket or flcker users or whatever. ruins threads

And a more hardcore offroad site: http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.php

yeah, I hate that

oof those are bigboys

Yeah, they have some crazy trucks on there

maybe he should buy my buddy's suzuki samurai <:GWseremePeepoThink:402867838580293643>

bit smaller than a jeep cj, but not that much