Message from @Double Negative

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2018-10-19 08:12:16 UTC  

Natural monopolies are incredibly rare and only happen when you can't compete with the products or when there is a tech barrier to reducing costs or improving designs

2018-10-19 08:12:43 UTC  

And even then they get broken up when literally anything changes

2018-10-19 08:13:10 UTC  

>natural
"whoops, this board of directors got wiped out by an unnamed killsquad. guess we, as an innocent third party, will buy the company after it devalues :^)"

2018-10-19 08:13:16 UTC  

The monopolies you see now wouldn't happen in a free market

2018-10-19 08:13:23 UTC  

The problem with ancapistan isnt a sole service provider like mcdonalds, but corporations with a natural monopoly on resources, or oligarchism

2018-10-19 08:13:31 UTC  

free market needs a governing force to keep it free

2018-10-19 08:13:40 UTC  

Itself

2018-10-19 08:13:59 UTC  

i'm just using mcdonalds as a placeholder for "big company", any company could do this if they had the capital to start

2018-10-19 08:14:05 UTC  

The idea of a free market is not simply a single face issue

2018-10-19 08:14:17 UTC  

Its a system that has checks and balances

2018-10-19 08:14:23 UTC  

Literally and figuratively

2018-10-19 08:14:45 UTC  

If one company got uppity, no one else wants to support them

2018-10-19 08:14:54 UTC  

They could, a nightmare scenario is mcdonalds purchasing all or most beef farms with their extraordinary wealth

2018-10-19 08:15:03 UTC  

Because people would be pretty happy

2018-10-19 08:15:14 UTC  

>mcdonalds
>real meat

2018-10-19 08:15:15 UTC  

Same reason why people dont want Nazism or Ancap now

2018-10-19 08:15:31 UTC  

and the rise of syndicates whom benefit from this monopolisation

2018-10-19 08:15:32 UTC  

mcdonalds is real meat

2018-10-19 08:15:33 UTC  

The familiar is comfortable

2018-10-19 08:15:42 UTC  

of course there's filler

2018-10-19 08:15:48 UTC  

but there's still beef in those shitty thin patties

2018-10-19 08:16:03 UTC  

@a lone father k uh oh looks like in order to compete companies are making synthetic meat

2018-10-19 08:16:09 UTC  

Monopoly nullified

2018-10-19 08:16:14 UTC  

Oops

2018-10-19 08:16:54 UTC  

In a state controlled market there'd be a fucking 10 year wait to see if the meat is clear for consumption even if its literally just meat

2018-10-19 08:17:14 UTC  

By that time yeah beef monopoly would actually have caused massive damage

2018-10-19 08:17:26 UTC  

>10 year wait to see if the meat is clear for consumption
what

2018-10-19 08:17:42 UTC  

im pretty sure the ground beef in my freezer didnt take 10 years to get checked

2018-10-19 08:17:55 UTC  

@Double Negative no I'm saying synthetic meat

2018-10-19 08:18:00 UTC  

oh

2018-10-19 08:18:02 UTC  

Lab grown

2018-10-19 08:18:11 UTC  

Why would companies want to compete when there is more profit to be made joining this syndicate which has dictatorial control on prices and market power

2018-10-19 08:18:33 UTC  

so a cartel?

2018-10-19 08:18:46 UTC  

that's exactly what's happened with oil and maple syrup

2018-10-19 08:18:57 UTC  

The thing is market base

2018-10-19 08:19:08 UTC  

@Tinker Tom father k raises a really good point

2018-10-19 08:19:12 UTC  

cartels exist in history, they actively destroy competition even through sabotage

2018-10-19 08:19:19 UTC  

Not really @Double Negative

2018-10-19 08:19:44 UTC  

Did microsoft not actively suppress competition until the state intervened?

2018-10-19 08:19:47 UTC  

In order for a cartel to be worth it, you need to have a select few companies being the only ones operating in a market

2018-10-19 08:19:50 UTC  

there's a maple syrup cartel in Canada right now that has complete control over the prices, they are notorious for sabotaging competitors