Is fair most votes is the winner

Cos if you vote for a small party that dosent stand a chance you're not helping the main party on the other side of the political spectrum

The problem is that in other electoral systems, extremist parties grow easily

Europe is an example of that

Aye

@HM - King of UK + Commonwealth America use a first past the post style system and hillary got the most votes but Trump won

That can happen and it’s still fair

STV dosent have that problem because you continue giving votes to second choices until a party has a majority

How is that fair?

It had happened four times before

Trump got a landslide victory without the popular vote

It happened before dosent make it fair...

It's effectively making some peoples vote worth more than others

Bush jr did it in 2000 and hardly anyone complained

Well they shouldve complained

Cos it's bullshit whoever it happens to

Oh yes they should of complained the fact is oh no they didn’t

And the point is?

The system is broken no matter how much people complain

It happened in the uk Election in 1951

I get your point

Conservative won a overall majority labour got most votes

It's not my problem that people didn't complain back then

Poor Attlee

I wasn't alive

But I'm alive now and I'm complaining now

There where people alive in 2000 who are complaining now

OK but I'm not one of them

Anti trump people crying losers tears

Like how is it logical that the fact other people didnt complain about unfair elections means that I'm not allowed to complain about them now

Where is the logic

It dosent make a difference if its trump or not

If bernie won without popular vote I'd call him out on it

It makes the votes of people in swing states many times more valuable than those of people in large states like Texas or California

Idk about you but that dosent sound like democracy to me

True which is fair

So you admit it's a problem?

But the problem is that the US has to do that

It not a problem at all

The US is a weird country

The States have so much freedom