and i have nothing wrong with conspiracies

News papers ignoring the firing of rubber bullets into the eyes and throats of yellow vesters being an international example

just a subset of them are very much fairytales

yea but thats omission dude

its not "making stats up"

lie by omission

Covington and Amazonian Forest Fires being another 2

Hmm

Whats a fourth, I may have to actually think about that one for a second

journalist manipulation is rarely about making up statistics, its usually lie by omission or citing dodgy sources

Gender Neutral Santa Clause

"russiagate"

OH YEAH

Russiagate

Hmm

brother i dont follow mainstream media because of things like that

Pizzagate too

but that doesnt mean statistics are made up generally

We aren't saying that they're generally made up, just that it's an entirely plausible possibility

I read an article doomsaying climate disaster by 2023 which didn't even cite a source

soup said they generally make up stats

Another one that actually used a study performed by somebody without a degree or employer who constructed a faulty model from incomplete climate data

*well I'm saying that at least

ye

I'm not saying they "generally make up stats" I'm saying that you can't rely on them to use stats

Soup Can SamToday at 12:35 PM
Honestly they generally do

"manipulate other people's studies to show things they want to show"

That is what I was responding to

Not making up stats

ah okay

being manipulative or simply not putting in due diligence to source a story

thats why i like independent media

far more hyperlinks to sources

I generally prefer it as well

whereas mainstream media go "study says" without linking the study

Yeah

I usually just look at mainstream media to get what some of the perspective on an issue are, but not information on the actual issue itself

Independend journalists are good

*sometime*

grain of salt

depends on the journalist