Message from @Sh0t

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2019-11-13 22:53:20 UTC  

Cannery Row et al

2019-11-13 22:53:43 UTC  

A. Be good at your Job
B. Be promoted or get a better one
C. No longer in poverty

2019-11-13 22:54:12 UTC  

need a job to get to point A, and the job situation is directly affected by gov policies, hence the rise of Trump

2019-11-13 22:54:22 UTC  

Trump's whole campaign was about the gov killing jobs

2019-11-13 22:54:33 UTC  

you also need to get a job that can support you

2019-11-13 22:54:43 UTC  

There’s still loads of opportunities

2019-11-13 22:54:44 UTC  

the right also knows the minimum wage can cause unemployment when high enough

2019-11-13 22:55:03 UTC  

Some places will even pay you to move there

2019-11-13 22:55:10 UTC  

the left sometimes acknowledges it, most don't quite understand what price controls do when they are floors

2019-11-13 22:55:27 UTC  

depends on what jobs you have, during jim crow that was often against the law, explicitly

2019-11-13 22:55:29 UTC  

Minimum wage at 40 would be gay, that’s instantly a lot of small business, the backbone of American economy gone

2019-11-13 22:55:35 UTC  

and that situation compounds through the generations

2019-11-13 22:55:42 UTC  

Apartheid state in SA was built around it

2019-11-13 22:55:51 UTC  

Same with 15 and that’s actually a debate

2019-11-13 22:56:16 UTC  

with 15 it becomes more of a tariff, because the low cost of living states lose their competitive edge

2019-11-13 22:56:23 UTC  

similar to what is happening to Greece right now in Europe

2019-11-13 22:56:41 UTC  

two different approaches that cause the same 2nd order effect

2019-11-13 22:56:42 UTC  

The problem is, people aren’t trying. They blame something or someone else for their being poor and never take the initiative to better their situation

2019-11-13 22:56:46 UTC  

I’m not going to pay a shitshow of a janitor 15 dollars an hour, he’s not important enough for that money

2019-11-13 22:56:48 UTC  

sure if a shame if those CEOs get smaller bonuses

2019-11-13 22:57:07 UTC  

People are trying, this is like the "Ok, Boomer" meme in raw form now

2019-11-13 22:57:20 UTC  

They’re not trying

2019-11-13 22:57:21 UTC  

In most case, they do ok, but it's the thumb on the scale effect

2019-11-13 22:57:24 UTC  

Or just dumb

2019-11-13 22:57:48 UTC  

god just screaming "bootstraps!" over and over again is entertaining

2019-11-13 22:58:01 UTC  

once again, i reference Friedman, who notes that the Black unemployment rate is often manipulated via the minimum wage

2019-11-13 22:58:33 UTC  

You can disemploy the marginal workers easily when you play with price floors

2019-11-13 22:58:37 UTC  

“They’re not trying” I’d like to see people “try” to your standards after automation “why did they fail, at being better then a robot? They’re not trying”

2019-11-13 22:58:45 UTC  

Why should I take this Friedman guys word as fact

2019-11-13 22:59:17 UTC  

He was only human, but he gave the issue some thought and study

2019-11-13 22:59:22 UTC  

won a Nobel Prize, etc

2019-11-13 22:59:32 UTC  

not on your level, but who is

2019-11-13 22:59:42 UTC  

uh the Nobel Prize in economics is not really a Nobel Prize

2019-11-13 22:59:45 UTC  

i know

2019-11-13 22:59:49 UTC  

in the memory of

2019-11-13 22:59:58 UTC  

the recent prize winner is very interesting too btw

2019-11-13 23:00:12 UTC  

Nobel prize isn’t really an achievement

2019-11-13 23:00:12 UTC  

MIT team using market-testing like approaches to poverty reduction

2019-11-13 23:00:16 UTC  

i love seeing how bad most economic modeling is

2019-11-13 23:00:17 UTC  

Even Obama got it

2019-11-13 23:00:24 UTC  

like the Nordhaus shit