Message from @E2D2

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2019-12-19 19:48:23 UTC  

see McLuhlen

2019-12-19 19:48:43 UTC  

the ultimate point is power in politics, the role of media only counts toward that goal

2019-12-19 19:48:45 UTC  

for this context

2019-12-19 19:48:46 UTC  

McLuhlen?

2019-12-19 19:49:08 UTC  

excuse me Mcluhan

2019-12-19 19:49:25 UTC  

"The medium is the message" and Postman after him

2019-12-19 19:50:02 UTC  

IF you want to look at movies, take it back to when teh British were using them to sucker us into WWII

2019-12-19 19:50:12 UTC  

then you go walk it forward and look at them in general for each era of politics

2019-12-19 19:50:51 UTC  

for the current context however, the main issue is when the Evangelicals began their major campaign to lock in power inside the Republican party, an all-in strategy

2019-12-19 19:51:19 UTC  

I have no idea. But I will put my claim that entertaintment has favored a left leaning(culturally speaking) push for the past 10-15 years.

And in society in large - From letting 8 year old be promoted as drag queens to allowing transitioned men compete in their sportfield.
I dont see this as isoltaed incident but as push that is promoted by the left.

2019-12-19 19:51:25 UTC  

And the "Right" following

2019-12-19 19:51:26 UTC  

They cynical used abortion as a motivating issue because normally their flock were not going to go along wtih the 'billionaire favoring' legislation that Reagan was for etc

2019-12-19 19:51:32 UTC  

just a few year s after

2019-12-19 19:51:33 UTC  

brb

2019-12-19 19:52:02 UTC  

10-15 years is not even a generation, the pushback from the left caem from the culture war the Evangelicals started

2019-12-19 19:52:20 UTC  

this is like analyzing a football game from halftime on and ignoring how one team pulled out ahead

2019-12-19 19:56:43 UTC  

basically, just because you START a war, doesn't mean you WIN a war. but if the goal is to change 'domestic' politics, they succeeded, until recently

2019-12-19 19:56:45 UTC  

I dont know about evangelicals in the republican party.

I am talking in broad strokes what I see around any entertainment media. I really don't know where you are going with that statement.

You, as a 38 year old, doesn't see the strong push in entertainment? Where it almost has to have a strong social progressive undertone.

2019-12-19 19:56:55 UTC  

the right is fighting a culture war inside its ranks right now

2019-12-19 19:57:09 UTC  

If you don't know about evangelicals in the republican party, you don't really know what we are talking about

2019-12-19 19:57:23 UTC  

Yea I see your points of institutions like entertainment and society adopting "left" leaning ideas such as homosexuality, however its not an all-in left pushing era we are in. Homosexuals, women in power, people of color having higher attention, all of this has been a common occurrence for the past several decades. It may look like its some left leaning push, but its all mainly for profiteering off of the trends in society

2019-12-19 19:57:54 UTC  

Like if it didn't get as much attention as it does now, do you think anyone would care if there was a gay person playing James Bond for example?

2019-12-19 19:58:03 UTC  

no one would change their minds on watching it

2019-12-19 19:58:27 UTC  

but since its become such a hot issue, people will talk about it, or even watch it just because he's gay

2019-12-19 19:58:47 UTC  

i think the anti-sjws are not sensitive to how sensitive THEY are

2019-12-19 19:59:03 UTC  

which makes the memes write themselves

2019-12-19 19:59:04 UTC  

@E2D2

Exactly, once it was unthinkable And one day it might be a pedophile, that today is considered impossible

2019-12-19 19:59:06 UTC  

They're not trying to implement a message, they're just using the people to make profit

2019-12-19 19:59:20 UTC  

I don't think you understand

2019-12-19 19:59:33 UTC  

would having a pedophile as James Bond make a profit as an example

2019-12-19 20:00:10 UTC  

the politically consequences are 'base mobilization' strategy because 'the right' cannot use economic policy since people are not going to explicitly vote against their own interests, if they know better

2019-12-19 20:00:26 UTC  

do you think radical right, rightists, conservatives, liberals, socialists, etc. would want to see something like that and support it? @kotten

2019-12-19 20:00:32 UTC  

that has been the situation since Reagan, whom chopped off the top end but then put in SocSEc income taxes

2019-12-19 20:00:56 UTC  

@E2D2 I have no doubt that the culture could change so much that they would. We've had such socities in the past.

2019-12-19 20:00:56 UTC  

that's why the Myth of Reagan has to be upheld as well

2019-12-19 20:01:21 UTC  

why they support him so much

2019-12-19 20:01:37 UTC  

@kotten im talking about now

2019-12-19 20:01:37 UTC  

they need to use him as an icon because the real details are 'horrifying'

2019-12-19 20:01:39 UTC  

It is unthinkable now, But so was having homosexuals as starts 100 years ago.

2019-12-19 20:01:47 UTC  

it actually wasn't

2019-12-19 20:01:55 UTC  

exactly, that's the okie doke we are talking about