but with benefits

yes it is

it's like saying Norway isn't capitalist

or Dirigisme isn't capitalist

they have very free markets

you didnt add the with benefits part-

i agree with you now

But that isn't important

capitalism w benefits

yea

i thought you meant bare capitalism

what

i mean

what's the point of arguing with you if you just agree

why are you arguing with me

lol what

aren't we meant to reach a middle ground

because you said Bernie was a socialist and not a capitalist

either that or win

democratic socialist*

he's neither

yes

democratic socialist

that isn't a middle ground that's completely agreeing

i never said socialist

Demsoc whatever

**demsoc**

believing in democracy doesn't make you not want public ownership of the means of production

"At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end. As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people." -dsa website

you obvi havent looked into what democratic socialism is

bruh

"weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people"

is NOT

capitalism

I don't think demsocs aren't socialists

that's the point I just literally made

.

you can be pro capitalism but anti corporatism

I'm saying *Bernie* isn't actually a socialist, or a demsoc or whatever

oh

I don’t see sanders having a chance in hell of beating trump