Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2020-04-08 19:43:36 UTC  

is 20k-29k

2020-04-08 19:43:45 UTC  

7 million are illegals, another few million are voluntary uninsured.

2020-04-08 19:43:52 UTC  

no

2020-04-08 19:43:52 UTC  

Yes illegals pull the average down

2020-04-08 19:43:59 UTC  

you dont get to just make up a number for voluntarily uninsured

2020-04-08 19:44:04 UTC  

i dont believe there are millions

2020-04-08 19:44:07 UTC  

the numbers dont reflect that

2020-04-08 19:44:41 UTC  

I'm not, I can probably cite it.

Anyways, of the households with serious medical conditions: 35% **postponed** needed care; 27% skipped a recommended medical test.But of these people, only 23% saw their condition get worse as a result.

2020-04-08 19:45:16 UTC  

What can we infer from this? People who have cancer on the whole **do not** skip such treatment, and of the people that do - a vast majority do not see a worsening condition.

2020-04-08 19:46:04 UTC  

Uninsured adults have 50% postponed needed care; 40% skipped medical tests that were recommended. However 25% reported a worsening medical condition.

2020-04-08 19:46:51 UTC  

ok

2020-04-08 19:46:59 UTC  

so we're running away with the data here

2020-04-08 19:46:59 UTC  

What can we infer from this? Vast majority of people do not skip test or care, of the people who do a little minority see a worsening of conditions.

2020-04-08 19:47:13 UTC  

the people who are skipping care for financial reasons

2020-04-08 19:47:16 UTC  

Which means the survival rate is probably pretty accurate.

2020-04-08 19:47:16 UTC  

are the ones without much money

2020-04-08 19:47:22 UTC  

which is who we're talking about

2020-04-08 19:47:35 UTC  

Yes the data above was because of costs, skipping that is.

2020-04-08 19:47:43 UTC  

yes

2020-04-08 19:47:49 UTC  

the people who arent getting treated

2020-04-08 19:47:54 UTC  

I.e 27% of people with serious conditions skipped test because of cost

2020-04-08 19:47:58 UTC  

are the people who arent getting diagnosed

2020-04-08 19:48:08 UTC  

are the people who are at the highest risk to die of cancer

2020-04-08 19:48:14 UTC  

are the people who arent represented in the stats

2020-04-08 19:48:19 UTC  

which skew the numbers up

2020-04-08 19:48:24 UTC  

Huh?

2020-04-08 19:48:44 UTC  

Did you not see the data above? 27% of people with serious medical conditions skip reccomended tests

2020-04-08 19:48:47 UTC  

if the nhs lopped the most vulnerable 9% off its patients of its reported numbers

2020-04-08 19:48:57 UTC  

ok champ

2020-04-08 19:49:00 UTC  

i see it

2020-04-08 19:49:12 UTC  

Of these people, 23% had a negative effect on health.

2020-04-08 19:49:15 UTC  

ok

2020-04-08 19:49:15 UTC  

I.e condition worsened.

2020-04-08 19:49:24 UTC  

And that 23% does not mean death either

2020-04-08 19:49:31 UTC  

???

2020-04-08 19:49:37 UTC  

whats your point here

2020-04-08 19:49:42 UTC  

your agreeing with my case

2020-04-08 19:49:52 UTC  

That we can reasonably conclude any effect on survival rates would be small or negligible.

2020-04-08 19:49:57 UTC  

no

2020-04-08 19:50:03 UTC  

we cannot reasonably conclude

2020-04-08 19:50:03 UTC  

I am gonna say the n word