I think I'll look into .22lr since 7.62 is about 1€ per bullet here in germany

Holy shit 5000 22lr rounds for 140$ in america wtf thats insane

same here but still

mosin is the best

mosin is like 500 here too

but k11 is 300

look for the K11 ruben schmitt or something

same manufacturere as the K31

i can find some at 200 holy fuck its cheap

ah wait no

bidding

mosin is still the best bet for me

Yeah those bigger calibres are nice and all but in the end Id just shoot an airgun if its that costly

lol

ye but you wont be able to defend yourself

I think youd piss your pants if someone points a 22lr at your vital organs (especially if there is no 911)

Thats plenty defense

mosin is going up in price

Less availability

also a weapon is useless if you cant shoot properly

I dig the mosin. I think everyone does. Personally, I’d go for a bolt action 7.62 x 39. Fits in regulations, excellent ammo availability, and some take mini 30 mags. I can throw a bolt plenty fast to be effective.

Also god beware if Id actually have to resort to guns here in germany Id already have the upper hand as noone has any weapons here

i can shoot good personally

and x39 is not allowed in france i think

same qiwi

but 22lr isnt really scary

a big old rifle will scare people

remember

black=scary

22lr can still kill

no racist joke intended

Fucken really? Quel dommage.

Well it is if youre running around in dirty clothes, starving trying to scavenge something and it punctures any organ of your choosing with no proper medical staff to help you for hundreds of miles around.

22lr ramps up speed when it penetrates and starts bouncing around inside the enemy and does more damage per second

something about terminal velocity

Back in the old west they used to say that if you had a hole you weren’t born with start writing your will. I think that’ll be true again if shtf

I mean its no 20mm but that doesnt look too good

20mm exit wound

My only real issue with .22lr is that it dies to any kind of armor. But you can hold 500 in your cargo pocket, so trade offs everywhere

i was born with too much holes :c

Who the fuck has body armor in europe