Message from @RiseAgainst14
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You're just asserting that God doesnt exist
I'm asking why you think so
Is it because you have not seen him?
Aye
Have you seen the creation of the universe? How can you contend its self causing?
You're being inconsistent
If the universe didn’t exist something would still be there
I'm not saying that you're saying the universe doesnt exist
You attribute self causation as the creation of the universe yet you have never experienced it and deny God on that basis
nobody has seen the universe been created but nobody has seen god either
So then you cannot say based off of your beliefs that you need rational justification that either is valid
The universe goes on forever there is no ending like the number infinity ♾ you can go as far as you want each way.
That's irrelevant to the argument
*facepalm*
The number infinity doesn’t truly exist
It's a concept not a number but that's irrelevant
When atheists can no longer justify their world view they become incoherent like we see here
Yep
But here’s the thing, what proof do they have that it just happened
They claim they need rational justification for everything yet they cannot rationally justify their world view
There’s honestly so much denial it’s funny
mattew- 16 - 17: "the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” this is when jesus was baptised, and also proves jesus is the son of god
you guys are denying the bible
you guys are spreading false statements
another verse Mark - 14-KJV: Again the high priest questioned Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?”
“I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”
I’ve never said that christ was not the Son
Never in any of this arguement have i said that he wasn’t the son of god
Luke 1 - “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.
Which then God also says that he will be also called the MESSIAH
thats what people say
god never saids that
please provide proof
1 bible 70000 thousand explanations
John 1- "The man on whom you see the Spirit descend and rest is He who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ 34I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God.”
John 1 -“Rabbi,” Nathanael answered, “You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”
Jesus said to him, “Do you believe just because I told you I saw you under the fig tree? You will see greater things than these.” Then He declared, “Truly, truly, I tell you, you will see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.”
Matthew 16 - “But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?”
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Matthew 14- "And when they had climbed back into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God!”
John 11 - “Yes, Lord,” she answered, “I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world.”
Matthew 27:54 - "When the centurion and those with him guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified and said, “Truly this was the Son of God.”
Luke 4:41 - "Demons also came out of many people, shouting, “You are the Son of God!” But He rebuked the demons and would not allow them to speak, because they knew He was the Christ."