Message from @Pelth

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2019-10-08 06:29:22 UTC  

@bink God is bound by the laws of logic

2019-10-08 06:31:06 UTC  

@Pelth Humans are capable of knowing objective truths

2019-10-08 06:31:35 UTC  

I just typed a message.

2019-10-08 06:31:43 UTC  

There you go, objective truth.

2019-10-08 06:34:11 UTC  

Incorrect

2019-10-08 06:34:39 UTC  

@Pelth How so?

2019-10-08 06:35:38 UTC  

>doesn't explain why

2019-10-08 06:35:41 UTC  

<:peepodumb:538083903835996176>

2019-10-08 06:37:43 UTC  

Did someone really type a message, I can’t be sure. This could all be a cosmic fever dream.

2019-10-08 06:37:59 UTC  

Doesn't matter if you're sure about it

2019-10-08 06:38:32 UTC  

You’d have to be sure about it for it to be an objective truth

2019-10-08 06:39:01 UTC  

Lol, we can go by the majority through empirical evidence and say they observed it.

2019-10-08 06:39:04 UTC  

As humans we are incapable of truly verifying anything

2019-10-08 06:39:06 UTC  

Simple

2019-10-08 06:39:22 UTC  

If I didn't type a message then I wouldn't be talking with you rn.

2019-10-08 06:39:28 UTC  

No

2019-10-08 06:39:36 UTC  

We're capable of verifying 1 + 1 = 2

2019-10-08 06:39:42 UTC  

Maybe I’m not talking to you and you think I am

2019-10-08 06:39:51 UTC  

Could you give me a reason as to why it is not the case 1 + 1 = 2

2019-10-08 06:40:24 UTC  

But you are talking to me, I can verify through other peoples empirical evidence.

2019-10-08 06:40:36 UTC  

If someone had a different system of math it could be a different result. 1+1 only equals 2 because we say so

2019-10-08 06:42:32 UTC  

>different system of math

2019-10-08 06:42:34 UTC  

Such as?

2019-10-08 06:42:50 UTC  

And why would a different system entail that result

2019-10-08 06:44:06 UTC  

Every method for calculating Avagardo's number yields the same value.

2019-10-08 06:44:12 UTC  

Because the result is arbitrary

2019-10-08 06:44:30 UTC  

mathematics is arbitrary

2019-10-08 06:44:38 UTC  

How so?

2019-10-08 06:45:12 UTC  

It's not arbitrary considering it's based on rules and systems

2019-10-08 06:45:21 UTC  

For example De Morgan's law in Boolean logic

2019-10-08 06:45:25 UTC  

Metric and imperial still measure things but in arbitrarily different ways

2019-10-08 06:45:30 UTC  

...

2019-10-08 06:46:03 UTC  

No they don't, you can convert between the two.

2019-10-08 06:46:20 UTC  

I don't think you know what arbitrary means

2019-10-08 06:46:28 UTC  

Perhaps but only if you agree on a common conversion

2019-10-08 06:46:35 UTC  

If they were arbitrary, you wouldn't be able to convert between the two

2019-10-08 06:47:23 UTC  

Pelth, could you give me reasoning why 1 + 1 = 2 is not the case?

2019-10-08 06:48:18 UTC  

1+1 can equal 3 depending on the context

2019-10-08 06:48:29 UTC  

Like procreation

2019-10-08 06:48:44 UTC  

That is not mathematics.

2019-10-08 06:48:50 UTC  

How is it not