Message from @Sh0t

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2019-10-14 09:52:15 UTC  

just because htey are in europe doesn't change that

2019-10-14 09:52:47 UTC  

It does, because it is not consistent with the society they live in.

2019-10-14 09:52:58 UTC  

Which society do they really live in?

2019-10-14 09:53:19 UTC  

Which society do gang members trying to quit 'the life' live in ?

2019-10-14 09:53:22 UTC  

Do they not work in Amsterdam?

2019-10-14 09:53:32 UTC  

Do they not buy their food in Masterdam?

2019-10-14 09:53:39 UTC  

It's not that simple, espeically if the father has standing in the Islamic community

2019-10-14 09:53:48 UTC  

Do they not talk and interact with Dutch people.
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2019-10-14 09:54:42 UTC  

Think about the reverse, when Dutch solders are in Afghanistan, are they still Dutch or are they Afghani?

2019-10-14 09:55:10 UTC  

These soldiers are not permanent members of society.

2019-10-14 09:55:17 UTC  

It's absolutely not the same.

2019-10-14 09:55:27 UTC  

That family might not be either

2019-10-14 09:55:29 UTC  

depending on how the politics go

2019-10-14 09:55:33 UTC  

They are.

2019-10-14 09:55:38 UTC  

They might have to fall back on their islamic connections

2019-10-14 09:55:40 UTC  

They live and work there.

2019-10-14 09:55:45 UTC  

Their children study there.

2019-10-14 09:55:54 UTC  

They're registered as citizens there.

2019-10-14 09:55:56 UTC  

the west betrays people all the time, look at the politics righ tnow

2019-10-14 09:56:06 UTC  

They receive social aids there.

2019-10-14 09:56:08 UTC  

anti-islamic politicians gaining traction in other areas

2019-10-14 09:56:24 UTC  

Pogroms and such happen

2019-10-14 09:56:28 UTC  

They do, because of shit like that.

2019-10-14 09:56:44 UTC  

indeed, but that can be a chicken and egg problem from certain POVs

2019-10-14 09:56:56 UTC  

where are they from

2019-10-14 09:56:59 UTC  

ethnically

2019-10-14 09:57:01 UTC  

It's pretty obvious where the issue is

2019-10-14 09:57:10 UTC  

given how it's been around since the 6th century.

2019-10-14 09:57:30 UTC  

I dunno, the Dutch have done some terrible things around the world

2019-10-14 09:57:39 UTC  

That's irrelevant.

2019-10-14 09:57:48 UTC  

We're talking g about Islam.

2019-10-14 09:57:53 UTC  

it's not if trusting a western nation is the part of the motivation

2019-10-14 09:58:01 UTC  

Islam did nothing wrong

2019-10-14 09:58:06 UTC  

Bush did 911

2019-10-14 09:58:18 UTC  

he probably had help from saudi arabia

2019-10-14 09:58:23 UTC  

The Dutch are not forcing

2019-10-14 09:58:33 UTC  

that parent to threaten his kid with murder.

2019-10-14 09:58:35 UTC  

any BLM here?

2019-10-14 09:58:48 UTC  

no, but the dutch are enforcing western policy abroad

2019-10-14 09:58:49 UTC  

In fact

2019-10-14 09:58:55 UTC  

they said the exact opposite