Message from @Yusa

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2020-03-06 14:37:43 UTC  

Mutations don’t gain information when they occur, in fact, in some cases, they lose it.

2020-03-06 14:37:52 UTC  

What do you mean “information”

2020-03-06 14:37:54 UTC  

@Sophie Oh? Why?

2020-03-06 14:38:11 UTC  

It’s just not salient to the theory

2020-03-06 14:38:17 UTC  

They don’t gain genetic information, they just adapt

2020-03-06 14:38:26 UTC  

They change genetic information

2020-03-06 14:38:34 UTC  

They don’t “gain” or “lose”

2020-03-06 14:39:06 UTC  

Every human has about 100 new mutations per generation

2020-03-06 14:39:19 UTC  

Exactly

2020-03-06 14:39:24 UTC  

Exactly what

2020-03-06 14:39:53 UTC  

Just a minute, I’m grabbing and compiling information

2020-03-06 14:40:03 UTC  

Lol don’t give me some essay you’ve prepared

2020-03-06 14:40:15 UTC  

Just talk to me like a human being

2020-03-06 14:40:27 UTC  

You said exactly, what did you mean?

2020-03-06 14:40:28 UTC  

Since you don’t want to argue the origins of life, I need to refresh my memory

2020-03-06 14:40:42 UTC  

No essay, just a second

2020-03-06 14:41:20 UTC  

Ok, I’m at work but tag me with your reply and I’ll respond when I have a chance k?

2020-03-06 14:42:09 UTC  

@Sophie mutations are a result of mechanical damage that interferes with all molecular machinery. Life’s error correction, avoidance and repair mechanisms themselves suffer the same damage and decay. The consequence is that all multicellular life on earth is undergoing inexorable genome decay.

2020-03-06 14:42:30 UTC  

Surely that’s not what you want with evolution.

2020-03-06 14:43:51 UTC  

**Mutations are the fundamental cause of aging** (Kudlow, B.A., Kennedy, B.K. and Monnat, R.J. Jr, Werner and Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndromes: mechanistic basis of human progeroid diseases, Nature Reviews Molecular Cell Biology 8:394–404, 2007.)

2020-03-06 14:45:43 UTC  

**they are also the fundamental cause of cancer** (Eccleston, A. and Dhand, R., Signaling in cancer, Nature 441(7092):423, 2006)

2020-03-06 14:45:50 UTC  

So, first of all

2020-03-06 14:46:19 UTC  

That’s a mechanism of aging, it’s not the only one

2020-03-06 14:46:27 UTC  

**And infectious diseases** Casanova, J-L. and Abel, L., Human genetics of infectious diseases: a unified theory, The EMBO Journal 26:915–922, 2007

2020-03-06 14:46:28 UTC  

But yes what you’re saying is generally true

2020-03-06 14:46:53 UTC  

Selective pressure keeps it in line

2020-03-06 14:48:11 UTC  

There are a lot of sexual selection adaptations that are acted on by that pressure

2020-03-06 14:48:36 UTC  

Ah yes, selective pressure.

2020-03-06 14:48:46 UTC  

Of course you bring that up

2020-03-06 14:48:52 UTC  

...yes

2020-03-06 14:49:35 UTC  

Let’s hear it, what’s your argument against selective pressure

2020-03-06 14:50:01 UTC  

Sure, just a minute

2020-03-06 14:50:08 UTC  

I’m grabbing citations

2020-03-06 14:50:14 UTC  

You don’t need citations

2020-03-06 14:50:22 UTC  

Just talk to me like a normal person

2020-03-06 14:50:33 UTC  

I agreed with everything you said earlier, you didn’t need any of those citations

2020-03-06 14:50:34 UTC  

Wait wait wait, no citations?

2020-03-06 14:50:50 UTC  

If I challenge something then go ahead and provide a citation

2020-03-06 14:50:54 UTC  

This is going to be easier then I though

2020-03-06 14:51:01 UTC  

You don’t need to back up information that we both agree is true

2020-03-06 14:51:10 UTC  

So let’s hear it