Message from @Yusa

Discord ID: 685502095532621854


2020-03-06 14:50:01 UTC  

Sure, just a minute

2020-03-06 14:50:08 UTC  

I’m grabbing citations

2020-03-06 14:50:14 UTC  

You don’t need citations

2020-03-06 14:50:22 UTC  

Just talk to me like a normal person

2020-03-06 14:50:33 UTC  

I agreed with everything you said earlier, you didn’t need any of those citations

2020-03-06 14:50:34 UTC  

Wait wait wait, no citations?

2020-03-06 14:50:50 UTC  

If I challenge something then go ahead and provide a citation

2020-03-06 14:50:54 UTC  

This is going to be easier then I though

2020-03-06 14:51:01 UTC  

You don’t need to back up information that we both agree is true

2020-03-06 14:51:10 UTC  

So let’s hear it

2020-03-06 14:54:34 UTC  

@Sophie Selective pressure does weed out less fit creatures, although the animals it doesn’t weed out would have to have super power genetics every single time in order to reach the place we are today

2020-03-06 14:55:09 UTC  

K.

2020-03-06 14:55:44 UTC  

So selective pressure makes sure that detrimentally disadvantageous mutations are removed from the gene pool

2020-03-06 14:56:40 UTC  

Well, the gene pool is a whole different thing

2020-03-06 14:56:48 UTC  

Howso?

2020-03-06 14:57:45 UTC  

Because the gene pool would need instructions to begin with

2020-03-06 14:57:55 UTC  

...what?

2020-03-06 14:58:39 UTC  

I have no idea what that’s supposed to mean

2020-03-06 14:59:14 UTC  

The gene pool is just all the genes that exist within a breeding population

2020-03-06 14:59:55 UTC  

Ah, ok. We were thinking of different things.

2020-03-06 15:00:35 UTC  

We’re assuming the genes already have the basic instructions of survival?

2020-03-06 15:00:39 UTC  

Right?

2020-03-06 15:00:56 UTC  

No?

2020-03-06 15:01:01 UTC  

(Which is already a big assumption)

2020-03-06 15:01:05 UTC  

Only genes that survive

2020-03-06 15:01:14 UTC  

It’s not an assumption, it’s necessarily the case

2020-03-06 15:01:27 UTC  

You are alive, therefore your genes have the instructions for survival

2020-03-06 15:01:40 UTC  

Whatever that means

2020-03-06 15:01:47 UTC  

Well then, how would selective pressure work if cells don’t even know they have to survive?

2020-03-06 15:02:04 UTC  

How?

2020-03-06 15:02:06 UTC  

Because if they don’t survive then they die

2020-03-06 15:02:06 UTC  

What?

2020-03-06 15:02:18 UTC  

Why do they care?

2020-03-06 15:02:23 UTC  

They don’t

2020-03-06 15:02:28 UTC  

Exactly

2020-03-06 15:02:32 UTC  

Exactly what?

2020-03-06 15:02:57 UTC  

Cells aren’t generally self aware

2020-03-06 15:03:16 UTC  

We can debate whether your neurons are, but that’s a whole different discussion

2020-03-06 15:03:36 UTC  

So a cell has essentially programming

2020-03-06 15:03:48 UTC  

Just things it does and reactions to stimuli

2020-03-06 15:03:52 UTC  

They don’t even know that they have to survive. If you were to shoot an artificial machine, would it try to dodge the missile without being programmed to?