Message from @Komrade Kam

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2019-05-01 15:35:37 UTC  

Marxism u like?

2019-05-01 15:35:38 UTC  

So, tell me the one over arching idea of Socialism

2019-05-01 15:35:50 UTC  

Tell me what Socialism is

2019-05-01 15:37:19 UTC  

Government owns the means of production and abolishing private property

2019-05-01 15:37:36 UTC  

No, Socialism is worker owned means of production

2019-05-01 15:37:48 UTC  

That never happeneda

2019-05-01 15:37:49 UTC  

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2019-05-01 15:38:05 UTC  

Wdym boi, look at the USSR, China, and Cuba

2019-05-01 15:38:14 UTC  

community owns the means of production is the definition

2019-05-01 15:38:18 UTC  

Even England is experiencing a boom in worker ownership

2019-05-01 15:38:26 UTC  

That's Communism @Harrison37

2019-05-01 15:38:35 UTC  

No

2019-05-01 15:38:48 UTC  

Wdym no, I spend my time reading the theory and analyzing it

2019-05-01 15:39:34 UTC  

Communism is more of an extreme example where the class owns everything

2019-05-01 15:40:06 UTC  

But there are so many different forms

2019-05-01 15:40:06 UTC  

GG @Harrison37, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-05-01 15:40:07 UTC  

Communism is literally a classless, stateless society

2019-05-01 15:40:11 UTC  

hes

2019-05-01 15:40:13 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-01 15:40:34 UTC  

Socialism is the way to communism Lenin said it himself

2019-05-01 15:40:36 UTC  

So how could it be an extreme thing with ownership of class

2019-05-01 15:40:39 UTC  

Agreed

2019-05-01 15:40:54 UTC  

But, you missed the definition of both

2019-05-01 15:41:15 UTC  

Censorship is a huge problem with it

2019-05-01 15:41:36 UTC  

That's a governmental aspect not an economic aspect

2019-05-01 15:41:53 UTC  

Every kind of mode of production has a form of censorship

2019-05-01 15:42:22 UTC  

Some capitalist countries have censorship, some monarchies do too, and so do some Socialists

2019-05-01 15:42:27 UTC  

Communism always becomes authoritarian

2019-05-01 15:42:58 UTC  

Where has socialism worked

2019-05-01 15:43:06 UTC  

As someone who's read the constitution and looked in depth into the governmental organization I can guarantee that's false

2019-05-01 15:43:44 UTC  

U can't have freedom of speech in a communist society

2019-05-01 15:43:50 UTC  

@Harrison37 you cannot follow an ideology to the word so it has never worked and will never work that way

2019-05-01 15:43:50 UTC  

Why not??

2019-05-01 15:44:23 UTC  

If you follow literally any economic model word for word you'll be fucked

2019-05-01 15:44:34 UTC  

Yup

2019-05-01 15:44:45 UTC  

Because there is no free market and the government can destroy you

2019-05-01 15:44:52 UTC  

How so??

2019-05-01 15:45:08 UTC  

... Look at North korea

2019-05-01 15:45:18 UTC  

You're citing North Korea, really

2019-05-01 15:45:22 UTC  

Look at what Stalin did

2019-05-01 15:45:30 UTC  

Stalin wasn't authoritarian