Message from @thomas the choo choo tree

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2019-05-07 15:22:57 UTC  

No? I just explained how my compromise fixes that, to the best of the ability

2019-05-07 15:23:10 UTC  

it takes care of the parenting part

2019-05-07 15:23:13 UTC  

where does the baby go after removed

2019-05-07 15:23:16 UTC  

The mother literally never comes in to contact with the child. There is no "nurture, feed, and take care of"

2019-05-07 15:23:18 UTC  

not the pregnancy part

2019-05-07 15:23:32 UTC  

Adoption agency, state care. There would be something in place

2019-05-07 15:23:34 UTC  

oh so when she's pregnant she can do whatever she wants?

2019-05-07 15:23:40 UTC  

she can get drunk whenever

2019-05-07 15:23:53 UTC  

she can skip a meal if she wants to

2019-05-07 15:23:59 UTC  

no. she can't.

2019-05-07 15:24:38 UTC  

I mean, if that's the biggest issue a rape victim has, not being able to get soused....

2019-05-07 15:24:53 UTC  

no, what im saying is

2019-05-07 15:25:42 UTC  

after a traumatising event like that occurs, it's your RIGHT to be selfish. you must take care of yourself during that time period. even that would be very hard to do.

2019-05-07 15:25:59 UTC  

I'm not saying the mother won't have to face undeserved and terrible sacrifices because of it, but it's the BEST solution to a shitty situation all around that I can honestly think of

2019-05-07 15:26:00 UTC  

on top of that, there would be a LIVING BEING inside of you. BECAUSE of that event.

2019-05-07 15:26:20 UTC  

she has to sacrifice time of labour tho

2019-05-07 15:26:26 UTC  

It preserves both the dignity of the mother, prevents having to go through child birth, AND allows the child to live.

2019-05-07 15:26:26 UTC  

or like pregnancy

2019-05-07 15:26:45 UTC  

so a potential life > the psychological welfare of the mum

2019-05-07 15:26:47 UTC  

and having a event like that and pregnancy is bad

2019-05-07 15:26:56 UTC  

might even lead to 2 deaths

2019-05-07 15:27:32 UTC  

I'm saying that the psychological welfare of the mum is not going to be caused by getting a slightly biggest torso for a few months, but by the actual rape that occurred

2019-05-07 15:27:55 UTC  

and the fact that she's carrying the baby of her rapist

2019-05-07 15:27:58 UTC  

ye

2019-05-07 15:28:09 UTC  

she's taking care of something her rapist put inside of her

2019-05-07 15:28:16 UTC  

It's the best solution I can think of, the mixture from two extreme. Either kill the baby or make the mother suffer childbirth are the other two alternatives

2019-05-07 15:28:32 UTC  

yeah

2019-05-07 15:28:33 UTC  

its not killing

2019-05-07 15:28:40 UTC  

if its not alive tho

2019-05-07 15:28:44 UTC  

Using your scientific definition of life, what if the baby is 7 months along before the mother is able to have an abortion. It's alive by your definition, therefore is it ok to kill it?

2019-05-07 15:28:47 UTC  

technically it isn't killing to us

2019-05-07 15:28:55 UTC  

no

2019-05-07 15:28:59 UTC  

But by your scientific definition it would be

2019-05-07 15:29:01 UTC  

not that late

2019-05-07 15:29:08 UTC  

but that makes no sense

2019-05-07 15:29:09 UTC  

when she knows she is pregnant

2019-05-07 15:29:10 UTC  

just abort

2019-05-07 15:29:21 UTC  

it takes a toll physically and mentally

2019-05-07 15:29:31 UTC  

late term abortions are wrong

2019-05-07 15:29:36 UTC  

I'm just asking a hypothetical to challenge your standpoint, that's all

2019-05-07 15:29:40 UTC  

and trying to recover after being raped while being pregnant is nono