Both rely on identity politics, for example

mhm

the issue is also blaming the victim

like josh does

Yea, that's despicable to do

josh unepic

I think josh is more of a low effort troll though tbh, not because of his views, but because he never explains them

he says it's cause "they're weak and should have defended themselves"

He sort of just says "woman's fault for being raped dumb lady stay in the kitchen" then disappears and watches the reaction

Yea just low effort

maybe he is busy

we never know

i hope he;s a troll

wait billcat you support woman's rights right

like they should be granted the same rights as men

Wdym? Like equal rights? Of course

yeah ok good

TMK women have equal rights as well, at least in the US. I think the fight for equality is abroad at this point

what about like paid leave

Is paid leave a right?

dont really agree

oh yea, billcat, you are pro life for abortion right

Why so? If you can show me a law that is sexist by intent then I would stand behind you and denounce it

Yes, I am.

what you think of alabama abortion law

he said he has no op

cause there's not enough solid info

Poorly written, but on purpose because they want to oppose roe v wade

oh?

roe v wade should be protected at all costs

I managed to find bits and pieces of it, a lot of the justification behind the law is poor and the medical clarifications are very limited.

yeah

They left it intentionally vague in many places because they want it to be broad enough that if it successfully opposed Roe v Wade then it could be applied elsewhere and then modified per state

And I would say passing vague state legislation so it can be used as a potential copy paste base for other abortion legislation is bad politics

yeah

But honestly the whole debate argument will probably never be solved because two sides are framing it in two different ways

yep

the whole "is it alive" thing

Those on the left frame is as bodily autonomy and a bunch of crusty old white dudes wanting to control women's bodies, those on the right don't see it as that because they see the fetus as a life and care about the life being ended, they have no intent to control a female's body

I've explained my views on the matter before but yea, there really isn't much more than can be said, other than the value of human life is seen as very low to some

yeah um i don't completely agree w the opinion that pro-lifers are trying to restrict woman's rights on purpose