Message from @Sh0t
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that poor kid might grow up and not turn out to be a shitbag leftist
he should have the chance
I care about abortion, not your justifications for it
Should the woman have the chance to exercise control over her own body?
Generally speaking, yes, but this is an outlier
They would say it's not, that's it's a critical function
reproductive ability is partially what defines a woman
right, and like I said, I dgaf about their justifications for it. People can justify anything
Well, is it unreasonable for them to want to control what goes on inside their body?
People justify pooping and peeing on each other
That is true, but only women can get pregnant, hence 'feminism', since it applies to women
Yes, because it no longer involves just themselves
That is a point of contention, even within feminism, but let's say life begins at conception, do women have any control of what happens inside them, if they do not want to be pregnant?
Yes, I understand that
I'm saying I don't agree with their justifications
If they do not want to be pregnant they shouldn't have had unprotected sex.
Sorry if you're a whore that can't control yourself
anything can happen, for any number of methods used, somebody will be in that 0.01 percent. if enough people are having sex, you will get a sizable amount
should those 0.01%, conservatiely, be forced to carry?
Sure, and that is the WELL KNOWN POSSIBLE OUTCOME of having sex
I can't help it if you took a chance and you lost
You don't have to help it, but if a woman wants to have an abortion at that point, what do you think should be done to her?
typical leftist logic, "I fucked up, now everyone else change their lives to suit me"
@qwasi so is the possibility of crashing your car from driving. There's an implicit acceptence in both scenarios, where you want to remove a person's right to medical treatment in one.
Is she asking you to change YOUR life?
I don't consider an abortion "medical treatment" you fucking heathen
lol
DOes anything in that abortion procedure involve you?
If I'm the father, yes
It's between the pregnant woman and the medical staff, I do not believe you are involved
well what if you aren't the father, but just some guy commenting on feminism and abortion
we can get to the 'father side' after
you can't burden the risks of pregnancy, so it's not your child in the way you want it to be.
Feminists write quite a bit about the usage of pregnancy as a tool to control women , by the would-be father and potentially a larger group. Aside from that, the issue of THIRD PARTY men having a say in it seems a bit less reasonable
``` unreasonable, power hungry, vengeful, angry cunts
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```I don't consider an abortion "medical treatment" you fucking heathen```
```literally dgaf```
```that poor kid might grow up and not turn out to be a shitbag leftist```
```you literally aren't human beings so it doesn't count```
```Sorry if you're a whore that can't control yourself
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``` unreasonable, power hungry, vengeful, angry cunts```
```Feminist theory
Subscribers to one model say that some misogyny results from the Madonna–whore complex, which is the inability to see women as anything other than "mothers" or "whores"; people with this complex place each encountered woman into one of these categories. Another variant model alleges that one cause of misogyny is some men thinking in terms of a virgin/whore dichotomy, which results in them considering as "whores" any women who do not adhere to an Abrahamic standard of moral purity.```
that's funny
I agree