it's YOUR success

society

and culture around you

isn't really relevant to that

how would you define success then

It's totally relevant

You're forced to live in that culture

so you can't be successful because drag queens exist?

you're not forced

you could go migrate to the middle east

anytime you want

You can be successful, I never said you couldn't

so. then it's worth it

I'm saying it isn't something that's really good

because you get successful

what

success isn't good?

success isn't an inherently good thing

no

It's only good if you're succeeding at the right thing

and who determines that?

Who determines if anything is good or bad?

you determine that yourself

and societal standards play a role

also common sense

a stable high income

is clearly not a negative thing

I wish I knew what half of this stuff meant

>clearly not a negative thing

I guess not inherently?

It depends on the situation

egghead says

"Being honest society does play a major part but societies messed up views make it so we should be allowed to mainly determine what is wrong and what is right"

-unmute @egghead

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it's a good thing for your own life

I don't see why that's something I should care about

It's like getting a high income and living in maoist china or smth

Would you really live a good life knowing you basically have to act fine with the stuff going on?

we're talking about in a capitalistic society

oh