@TallestGryphon i mean i guess so but monkeys dont have brains capabale of developing gender identity disorder

if there was a study saying that gender re-assignement surgery or at the least hrt helped people then i would be in favor of it

It *can* help some but it more often than not only exacerbates problems, aside from it being a traumatic surgery that can't truly be fixed. Surgery's done before adulthood are especially problematic as people with GID usually grow out of it by their teenage years.

Exactly most people usually regret doing these major, permanent changes to their body. Injections of hormones can mess with you’re original chemicals and trans men without testosterone will be super depressed later in life. it’s generally better to stay the gender you are.

once again people talk about the same shit, nothing new ........

ive heard this argument for everrrrrrrr

i think people have a jar of the same shit and pick which one they want to talk about today

None of that was a contribution to the conversation. Stop whining.

Can anyone give me a good reason without bible verses, religion, and insults, and your past experiences with gays why gay marriage shouldn’t be legalized or is bad?

Or because trump said so and everything he says is correct?

It's not bad is the thing though.

There's no real reason for people to be opposed to this in an of itself and as a result a majority of people are good with it.

Oh,

I know it isn’t bad. But I’ve debated with a lot of homophobes and their only argument was religion, and trump. So I was looking for an actual debate That would provide facts and stuff.

Trump has actually supported gay marriage as well though, is what I'm getting at. And I think even a majority of Trump's voters would agree, especially since this has come to include more and more democrats and independents.

Whatap man?

can I have the link or source to that please

and hi @robyroby_._69

Hi bro,whatap

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_policy_of_Donald_Trump#Same-sex_marriage

okay

Thank u

np

oh and yea I’m not sure but I’m saying they’ve said trump said it’s bad

He has said in the early 2000s that he doesn't support it but in recent years he's become more fine with it, and regardless of whatever his opinions have been he's also shown support for LGBT. I'm not going to care much for what his positions were on it prior to his presidency though since you have other politicians, like Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama, who have also changed their stances much more recently and nobody ever calls them out for it.

I know

I didn’t say I supported what barrack Obama said about the community tho so

Or Hillary

So that’s fine

I know you didn't, I was explaining why I personally don't care for the "he said she said 20 years ago" game.

I

oh* ok

But I’ wanted to argue with some of the homophobes here and see

what they thought of gay marriage

ah I believe homosexuals shouldn't even have human rights actually and why would I be scared of a homosexual?

ok,

so why don’t you think they should have Rights?

being gay is by definition a mental illness

Because I only believe people like me should have rights, cis straight people with autism

not homosexuals, normal people etc

Why not?