Message from @Billcat

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2019-04-15 20:52:45 UTC  

(52% of those foreign born people are european)

2019-04-15 20:53:14 UTC  

Obviously, I do not agree with the misquoting of statistics. However, I believe the reason that this 38% is brought up more often then the other EU countries immigrating is because these groups are incredibly problematic from a societal standard.

2019-04-15 20:53:58 UTC  

But the thing is they are not

2019-04-15 20:54:06 UTC  

Let me find some stats to back that up

2019-04-15 20:54:18 UTC  

Not because of race, but because of culture. I, for one, would sooner want to live in an entirely non white neighborhood of those with western values, willing to conform to western culture, then a neighborhood of whites who subscribe to the harmful ideologies that these non european immigrants bring with them.

2019-04-15 20:55:11 UTC  

I mean, I don't know the exact statistics, but I haven't heard of any, say, German immigrants in the UK who support Islamic Law being instituted in islamic neighborhoods, which includes the stoning to death of gays and rape victims

2019-04-15 20:55:34 UTC  

That's fair enough but its a massive over generalisation to say that these non-European immigrants bring "harmful ideologies" with them

2019-04-15 20:55:50 UTC  

What you're ignoring here is that those harmful ideaologies are often the reason these people flee the countries

2019-04-15 20:56:05 UTC  

Along with instability, war, better economic opportunities and the rest of it

2019-04-15 20:56:24 UTC  

Also a gay person has never been stoned to death in the UK

2019-04-15 20:56:28 UTC  

I don't think it is at all, because, if you look at the statistics, a large portion of these violent crimes being committed are being committed by these specific immigrants.

2019-04-15 20:56:39 UTC  

They aren't though

2019-04-15 20:56:47 UTC  

And that brings us back to the stats I was just looking for so give me a min

2019-04-15 20:56:57 UTC  

The problem is, these immigrants are not fleeing their countries and then adapting to life in the UK, they actively want the UK to conform to them

2019-04-15 20:59:01 UTC  

Many claim that they want to "fully integrate" however they never do. On large, it seems as if these specific immigrants are trying to bring the same issues that had them flee their country to european countries

2019-04-15 21:01:25 UTC  

Despite, when grouped together (Blacks, asians, mixed, etc) only making up 40% or so of the UK population, each group has a higher rate of arrests per 1,000 people than whites.

2019-04-15 21:02:27 UTC  

Now, these do not refer *specifically* to those of an immigrant origin, however they obviously show there is a definitive cultural problem.

2019-04-15 21:03:46 UTC  

well we're talking about immigrant origin... If you look at people who aren't white then that includes millions of people born and raised in the UK when this discussion is focussed on immigration

2019-04-15 21:03:48 UTC  

It also shows that Black Males have the highest percentage of arrests per 1,000 people. Guess what group also happens to make up the majority of non EU migrants?

2019-04-15 21:04:06 UTC  

They don't make up the highest percentage of non EU migrants

2019-04-15 21:04:13 UTC  

The stats we just looked at showed that

2019-04-15 21:04:22 UTC  

Its indians first and Pakistanis second

2019-04-15 21:04:33 UTC  

Indians and Pakistanis...are black

2019-04-15 21:04:33 UTC  

And you should know that neither of those countries are in africa

2019-04-15 21:04:34 UTC  

lol

2019-04-15 21:04:40 UTC  

what?!

2019-04-15 21:04:43 UTC  

You don't need to be african to be"black"?

2019-04-15 21:04:51 UTC  

You think that indians are black?!?!

2019-04-15 21:04:58 UTC  

Jesus christ

2019-04-15 21:05:04 UTC  

What group do you think they go under then?

2019-04-15 21:05:05 UTC  

Indians are asians with brown skin

2019-04-15 21:05:12 UTC  

They are south asians

2019-04-15 21:05:23 UTC  

As india the country is in the continent of asia

2019-04-15 21:05:34 UTC  

So, according to you, the UK government considers Indians to be...asians?

2019-04-15 21:05:39 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-15 21:05:44 UTC  

Can you source that?

2019-04-15 21:05:46 UTC  

Asians is used differently in the UK and the US

2019-04-15 21:05:56 UTC  

My source is myself and any other British person you ever talk to

2019-04-15 21:06:01 UTC