Message from @Pelth
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loyalty to the vatican is treachery
over the state
The Vatican doesn’t demand loyalty
yes it does
Prove it
The nation-state of the vatican doesn't demand loyalty but the Pope does
because he's the head of the religion
No he doesn’t. I’ve never received any demands or orders from the pope
Catholicism never really tries to have people be less loyal to their own nation
it's called the bible
He doesn’t really have any power
a book of orders
from the pope
@Lord of the Nazgûl are you memeing rn
omg
The Pope obviously gives you declarations on faith and morals
lmao
that's obvious
@Pelth Bible wasn’t written by the pope
i’m losing brain cells
It was curated by a council
the Pope confirmed the council
lol
@Pelth wdym by vatican sending orders though
He didn’t do the work
the vatican interprets the bible
and those interpretations are orders to follow essentially
@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds declarations on faith and morals are not in conflict with the state
Unless you live in China
Or North Korea
If the state makes you do immoral things you should refuse it
But following the state is something that the Church supports
and commands
Yes
render unto caesar that which is unto Caesar etc
As long as the state doesn’t go contrary to God’s laws
as long as those orders do not conflict with the church
but they often will
most of the time they don't
~~unless it's in modern times~~