Message from @jeff4121999

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2018-12-13 01:32:26 UTC  

Wow

2018-12-13 01:32:38 UTC  

That was wild

2018-12-14 05:53:29 UTC  

So I am new. What does this server think about Socialism?

2018-12-14 05:54:18 UTC  

Some people like it some people dont@Wyatt_Earp

2018-12-14 05:54:47 UTC  

Where do you stand @jeff4121999 ?

2018-12-14 05:54:51 UTC  

This server is to discuss those questions so let's have a discussion

2018-12-14 05:55:22 UTC  

I am of the position, in fairness, that it is both inefficient and violates property rights.

2018-12-14 05:55:29 UTC  

I stand that socialism is on paper is good but you can't have socialism if you have greed

2018-12-14 05:56:21 UTC  

I am an Australian republican actually just got out of prison for talking against the left wing government

2018-12-14 05:56:38 UTC  

Woah! Is that a thing in austrailia?

2018-12-14 05:57:00 UTC  

In Australia there is no freedom of speech

2018-12-14 05:57:14 UTC  

Wow.

2018-12-14 05:57:19 UTC  

So your against the idea of socialism?

2018-12-14 05:57:53 UTC  

I side with Bastiat. Socialism is a violation of people's property rights, which are inherent human rights.

2018-12-14 05:58:30 UTC  

^I am stating his view, not asserting it as fact, BTW

2018-12-14 05:58:45 UTC  

it's a philosophical argument, so open to discussion

2018-12-14 05:59:05 UTC  

I agree 100% and why are the people in socialist governments eating rats when there government are drinking champaign?

2018-12-14 06:00:14 UTC  

Because self interest drives everyone anywhere, not just in capitalism. Capitalism merely tries to direct self interest (greed) to constructive ends through the rule of law.

2018-12-14 06:00:23 UTC  

where as socialsim concentrates power and opens it up to abuse

2018-12-14 06:01:19 UTC  

@Minimarshmallo I never said anything about climate change

2018-12-14 06:01:28 UTC  

I know you didnt

2018-12-14 06:01:46 UTC  

Oh, and there is issues where cronyism distorts the rule of law in a capitalist society. I would admit that.

2018-12-14 06:01:59 UTC  

I was taking the fact where you said you were arrested for free speach

2018-12-14 06:02:10 UTC  

I said I was arrested bcs I was over getting stuff held back and getting force fed leftist propaganda

2018-12-14 06:02:39 UTC  

yeah and I think thats unfair because

2018-12-14 06:03:07 UTC  

I had a discussion in court about my right wing views 1 hour later I was broken in a jail cell

2018-12-14 06:03:28 UTC  

There were these students who went on strike to protest in canberra about how someone needs to do something about climate change

2018-12-14 06:03:36 UTC  

on phone atm

2018-12-14 06:03:51 UTC  

and it was endorsed by the news

2018-12-14 06:04:24 UTC  

@jeff4121999 I don't mean to sound like an entitled American, but that is mind boggling to me. Is there any sort of legal representation for this type of thing?

2018-12-14 06:04:47 UTC  

@Minimarshmallo tbh climate change is something the earth does it melts the ice then freezes again then the thing starts again there is no proof about climate change actually happening

2018-12-14 06:04:58 UTC  

I know that’s the point

2018-12-14 06:05:05 UTC  

thats why all this protestibg

2018-12-14 06:05:08 UTC  

i dont like it

2018-12-14 06:05:37 UTC  

I think the economy is going to get fucked because of it

2018-12-14 06:05:42 UTC  

not entirely sure

2018-12-14 06:05:53 UTC  

but that’s what I think

2018-12-14 06:06:32 UTC  

@Wyatt_Earp right wing lawyers but there rare to find and its in our laws that we can't talk out against the government and no it doesn't sound like your entitled american by asking a question I'm not a left wing that gets triggered by a pin drop

2018-12-14 06:07:35 UTC  
2018-12-14 06:07:54 UTC  

@Minimarshmallo I'm sorry im tripping out last time I had a discussion with a socialist I pulled out evidence then he yelled at me and tried to stab me but I had a conceal and carry permit