Message from @lemonsaw

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2019-05-18 05:28:30 UTC  

Thats why it needs to be regulated to succeed

2019-05-18 05:28:37 UTC  

otherwise you have crippling poverty

2019-05-18 05:28:38 UTC  

How can someone realistically believe capitalism will survive the rise of automation?

2019-05-18 05:28:51 UTC  

nothing will survive the rise of automation

2019-05-18 05:28:57 UTC  

the only people will be the rich of the rich

2019-05-18 05:29:10 UTC  

Not with socialism

2019-05-18 05:29:22 UTC  

Socialism is no different

2019-05-18 05:29:35 UTC  

It is very different

2019-05-18 05:29:36 UTC  

How would socialism defeat the rise of automation

2019-05-18 05:29:47 UTC  

Completely opposite

2019-05-18 05:29:54 UTC  

if I start a company in a socialist world with robots as workers

2019-05-18 05:29:57 UTC  

what would happen

2019-05-18 05:30:13 UTC  

Ok I have to stop using socialism

2019-05-18 05:30:16 UTC  

Ive heard the theory on why socialism would survive

2019-05-18 05:30:20 UTC  

continue

2019-05-18 05:30:24 UTC  

You can use socialism

2019-05-18 05:30:24 UTC  

Government controlled economy then

2019-05-18 05:30:27 UTC  

I know what you mean

2019-05-18 05:30:39 UTC  

its easier to put it into one word

2019-05-18 05:30:58 UTC  

The government owns all of the companies

2019-05-18 05:31:08 UTC  

So it redistributes wealth

2019-05-18 05:31:35 UTC  

As the cost of products gets closer to 0, everyone can live with abundance

2019-05-18 05:31:48 UTC  

So the government receives the means of production?

2019-05-18 05:31:54 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-18 05:32:01 UTC  

Thats fascism lmao

2019-05-18 05:32:17 UTC  

Ok then Im a fascist

2019-05-18 05:32:21 UTC  

Theres nothing inherently wrong with fascism on the surface

2019-05-18 05:32:25 UTC  

But it doesnt end well

2019-05-18 05:32:34 UTC  

for that to happen you have to live in a world without greed

2019-05-18 05:33:00 UTC  

People are greedy and theres no changing that

2019-05-18 05:33:06 UTC  

I mean it would be democratic, so hopefully, the people would control the means of production

2019-05-18 05:33:10 UTC  

in a socialist or fascist world someone would take control

2019-05-18 05:33:30 UTC  

Well if the people own the means of production itll still end the same way

2019-05-18 05:33:41 UTC  

One person starts a business with full automation

2019-05-18 05:33:49 UTC  

then they proceed to fuck everyone else

2019-05-18 05:34:02 UTC  

They rise to power or prop up someone who will

2019-05-18 05:34:07 UTC  

there will be an alliance and bam

2019-05-18 05:34:13 UTC  

ends the same

2019-05-18 05:34:17 UTC  

The government can use automation

2019-05-18 05:34:38 UTC  

The government isnt an incorruptible entity

2019-05-18 05:34:47 UTC  

The government is made up of people