Message from @Green Syndicalism
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@GoldenGail3 you're not arguing against communism
communism doesnt have a state and it doesnt have money
USSR violates these principles
you're arguing against marxist-leninism
which is fine -> central planning proved to be a failure
@Green Syndicalism Communism is like a Utopia that never happened - a lie large enough to decieve people which makes it a dangerous ideology.
you're right, its a utopia, but marxist-leninism is not communism
Yeah I know what it is, I just think it'll never be truly tried.
i mean, it was probably done in prehistory or whatever
but yea
in modernity, it wont be tried
@Green Syndicalism I can understand and accept your viewpoint lol
moneyless society is a super dumb idea
good meme
ML is a way to achieve communism
we go socialism then communism
seems like a bad way
why
economically it had problems, socially it had problems, and geopolitically it had problems, and eventually it tended toward stagnation and collapse. nations dont exist in vacuums
yes
you need to consider geopolitics when you design systems
(and ideologies)
yall should convert to corporatism though
why should arts/law graduates get to vote on economic issues? this is completely unmeritocratic and open to corruption (as has been shown in basically every parliamentary democracy ever)
italy facism says hi
yea obv dont structure it like that lol
no reason to have one monkey president-dictator
and no reason to let big corporations run society
the problem with commies is they conflate money with capital
you can regulate money such that if a private citizen owns it, it cannot be used as capital
but this isnt even ideal
if you're that worried about capital ownership, just socialise the economy. have regional banks publically funded and allow them to buy out large companies first, then medium ones. and mandate x% of their profits be distributed evenly to their populaces, y% to be reinvested in the economy. secondary markets would only be available to the regional banks, so if citizens want to put together their money to invest in stuff, itll be either in starting their own co-op businesses or funding a mutualised venture capital fund. i dont see that as a bad institution to allow within a socialist economy.
eGirls are destroying the economy.
They sell their bath water, premium snapchats, etc.
tbh I agree it balances the system
Stealing from REAL companies that have put hard work in
Damn how are you just switching to 5 different threads
thats so sad and true