Message from @babyfriend1

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2019-10-02 22:46:04 UTC  

Except that on average immigrants are usually part of the working-age young male demographic

2019-10-02 22:49:56 UTC  

The problem is that people argue about immigrants being unskilled

2019-10-02 22:51:02 UTC  

Depending on a nations immigration policy; immigrants may come in educated skilled labor

2019-10-02 22:51:16 UTC  

But that means some other country is having a brain drain

2019-10-02 22:51:50 UTC  

But the origin country gets the remittances so they're usually happy

2019-10-02 22:52:17 UTC  

That is if said immigrants send money back

2019-10-02 22:52:34 UTC  

Sometimes they may start a new life; become citizens of said country

2019-10-02 22:53:03 UTC  

Well in the context of the US the major immigrant groups that come in do send money back

2019-10-02 22:53:13 UTC  

No nation really wants its people to emigrant out

2019-10-02 22:53:30 UTC  

I think some central asian country got like 40% of its income from remittances

2019-10-02 22:53:33 UTC  

eh, it depends

2019-10-02 22:53:57 UTC  

Tru, immigrants may send money back to their country for their families and such

2019-10-02 22:53:58 UTC  

Because the US has technology that most countries don't so people in the US generally are more productive and make more money

2019-10-02 22:55:08 UTC  

Yes, and there is usually an investment on education of countries like US tend to be higher than some developing countries

2019-10-02 22:55:28 UTC  

Thus productivity is higher with tech and education

2019-10-02 22:55:52 UTC  

Yeah, so it's better if they send money back while living in the US than in their own countries

2019-10-02 22:55:59 UTC  

Since they'll probably make a lot more

2019-10-02 22:56:18 UTC  

Now, does this include illegal immigrants or legal immigrants?

2019-10-02 22:56:25 UTC  

That depends

2019-10-02 22:57:14 UTC  

In some cases illegal immigrants contain a lot of people we don't want and in some cases they contain mostly people that we do want but that can't get through because of quotas

2019-10-02 22:57:54 UTC  

So I'm not just gonna make a blanket statement about all of them

2019-10-02 22:58:34 UTC  

There is problem where there isn't really an option to naturalize immigrants if they enter illegally

2019-10-02 22:59:15 UTC  

And if there is; it may piss off the immigrants that came thru a tedious legal process

2019-10-02 22:59:56 UTC  

*Why would I apply to come to US if I can enter illegally and then become naturalized*

2019-10-02 23:00:04 UTC  

Hey peoples

2019-10-02 23:00:07 UTC  

Its me

2019-10-02 23:00:11 UTC  

Ej

2019-10-02 23:00:20 UTC  

Hi Ej

2019-10-02 23:00:24 UTC  

Well ideally I'd want the system to be reformed so that it's easier for them to get through *if* they're good

2019-10-02 23:00:58 UTC  

So the economy

2019-10-02 23:01:07 UTC  

What is it really

2019-10-02 23:02:04 UTC  

It's the movement of resources and services

2019-10-02 23:02:14 UTC  

According to Adam smith

2019-10-02 23:02:28 UTC  

He said it's something men cannot control

2019-10-02 23:02:33 UTC  

Like a force of nature

2019-10-02 23:02:49 UTC  

Yeah but adam smith also believed in the invisible hand

2019-10-02 23:02:49 UTC  

i really don't understand the aversion to enforcing legal immigration

2019-10-02 23:03:02 UTC  

Adam smith underestimated humans

2019-10-02 23:03:13 UTC  

And overestimated

2019-10-02 23:03:20 UTC  

oh shit that convo outran me <:laugh:583238348077006869>

2019-10-02 23:03:49 UTC  

Adam smith couldn't compete with modern economists in a debate