that's a big deal

it is

and its not govt owned shares

the banks arent government owned

theyre socially owned

whatever the arrangement is, if they can sell and 'dump it' they aren't really participating in a stock market

if they cant

and i said the people cant sell the shares they have of THEIR BANK

the shares of the stocks CAN BE SOLD

by the banks in question

that's what im talking about, in this case the bank is just a holding company, you can buy stock now in companies that also own stock

nothing unusual there

if you can't dump it, it's not a real stock market

but the stocks can be dumped

so

the stock market exists

the reason for this is fairly deep, it involves the psychology of being a real market participant versus being some sort of 'play actor' in a market

theres literally nothing stopping a stock going to 0 on this stock market

the idea of 'playing market' is old, it has some merit in some areas but for the purposes of DIVIDING between socialism and capitalism, it is on the other side

nice evadin the point

going to 0 is one thing. dumping your shares to get out is another

that's not evasion

banks can dump their shares

banks are literally playing a stock market

at some point, it comes down to an individual, if that erson can't get out, i think it's on the other side of the capitalist/socialist dividing line

bro

theres a market

of

likewise for others to come into it

shares

and banks

play the market

i get that, but that's not enough

it literally is

it's not , it really changes the psychology of the people involved

just like with people that paper trade versus real trading

A stock market, equity market or share market is the aggregation of buyers and sellers (a loose network of economic transactions, not a physical facility or discrete entity) of stocks (also called shares), which represent ownership claims on businesses; these may include securities listed on a public stock exchange, as well as stock that is only traded privately.

it LOOKS the same, but it's not the same

by this standard definition

the model i just gave is a stock market

stop making yourself look like a dumbfuck