Message from @Jefferson Davis

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2019-10-28 14:15:13 UTC  

and that causes problems for the fund, depending on how big you are

2019-10-28 14:15:13 UTC  

and this is a mutual fund you cannot exit

2019-10-28 14:15:20 UTC  

that's not a mutual fund then

2019-10-28 14:15:32 UTC  

that's something else pretending to be a mutual fund

2019-10-28 14:15:33 UTC  

thats not my point

2019-10-28 14:15:36 UTC  

think harder idiot

2019-10-28 14:15:43 UTC  

why do people put money into a mutual fund

2019-10-28 14:15:47 UTC  

instead of investing it themselves

2019-10-28 14:16:13 UTC  

various reasons, sometimes hoping the fund managers are better than they are, sometimes for tax reasons or they have to as a vehicle, etc

2019-10-28 14:16:25 UTC  

mutual funds cover a huge range of activities

2019-10-28 14:16:34 UTC  

so which one do you think a socially owned bank would perform the function of

2019-10-28 14:16:37 UTC  

think hard

2019-10-28 14:16:41 UTC  

You can exit from mutual funds anytime on payment of exit load except closed ended mutual fund and tax saving (ELSS) mutual funds

2019-10-28 14:16:44 UTC  

Sped

2019-10-28 14:16:59 UTC  

That depends on the goal of the socially owned bank

2019-10-28 14:17:13 UTC  

why the fuck would a normie be able to invest their money better than a specialist investor

2019-10-28 14:17:14 UTC  

and what 'socially owned' really means

2019-10-28 14:17:33 UTC  

hint: they wouldnt

2019-10-28 14:17:36 UTC  

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2019-10-28 14:17:48 UTC  

not always about BETTER there are sometimes other reasons for being in a mutual fund than just doing it yourself, including friction, etc

2019-10-28 14:17:57 UTC  

Gotem

2019-10-28 14:17:57 UTC  

youve missed the point again

2019-10-28 14:17:59 UTC  

and mutual funds aren't the only kind of 'funds'

2019-10-28 14:18:10 UTC  

whats it like to constantly have points whooshing past your head

2019-10-28 14:18:56 UTC  

but regardless, this is only half the reason for socially owned banks which you cannot withdraw from

2019-10-28 14:19:09 UTC  

theres plenty of other reasons which your dumb fucking mind hasnt thought about yet

2019-10-28 14:19:26 UTC  

You haven't described any reason to have a 'social bank' yet

2019-10-28 14:20:19 UTC  

and when you are talking about a bank you are makign some assumptions about the monetary system, etc, which is a whole other can of worms

2019-10-28 14:20:52 UTC  

a) specialist investors perform better than clueless normies in markets
b) socially owned banks can have wider mandates than typical corporate mandates, such as regional development goals, a focus on restoring environment, etc
c) this isnt private, its social. its meant to include the whole of society mostly equally in the process of wealth accumulation as the economy grows

2019-10-28 14:21:29 UTC  

if there are some social welfare goals, the honest way to fund it is direct monetization

2019-10-28 14:21:37 UTC  

bruh

2019-10-28 14:21:40 UTC  

stop whitewashing

2019-10-28 14:21:55 UTC  

socially owned banks are clearly a way for these things to be achieved

2019-10-28 14:22:13 UTC  

and its broader than just a question of "welfare"

2019-10-28 14:22:18 UTC  

if the goal is to gamble on this replica stock market in order to make returns in order ot finance these projects?

2019-10-28 14:22:44 UTC  

ESPECIALLY under a scenario like that, i would not want any sort of 'specialist investor' who thinks he knows this is a good idea

2019-10-28 14:22:50 UTC  

wut

2019-10-28 14:23:12 UTC  

a specialist investor with multiple mandates is absolutely better than a dumb idiot buying shares of amazon

2019-10-28 14:23:21 UTC  

(because he doesnt know any better)

2019-10-28 14:24:12 UTC  

a specialist investors, if he is a real professional, will understand markets are about edge and not 'picking winners', and should be very hestitate to get public money involved in any of this. see calsters, calpers, etc and all their issues

2019-10-28 14:24:24 UTC  

its not about edge when you have multiple mandates