Message from @Pelth

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2019-12-22 07:35:32 UTC  

She seems like a genuinely good person

2019-12-22 07:35:41 UTC  

which I find to be extremely rare

2019-12-22 07:35:53 UTC  

obviously I don't know her

2019-12-22 07:36:24 UTC  

She's consistent at least, I wish she had more nuance about some of the economics

2019-12-22 07:36:25 UTC  

so is a "Groyper" an America First'er?

2019-12-22 07:36:43 UTC  

it's just like a fan name

2019-12-22 07:36:46 UTC  

like his fans

2019-12-22 07:36:47 UTC  

oh

2019-12-22 07:36:50 UTC  

Michelle isn't one of them, but she accused TPUSA of avoiding nick and his people

2019-12-22 07:36:53 UTC  

which they are

2019-12-22 07:36:53 UTC  

the groyper army

2019-12-22 07:36:56 UTC  

or whatever

2019-12-22 07:37:00 UTC  

the soyboys

2019-12-22 07:37:06 UTC  

MIchelle was also pushed out of that circuit, like at CPAC

2019-12-22 07:37:24 UTC  

I think America should be first in the minds of Americans and American politicians. Why is that even controversial?

2019-12-22 07:37:33 UTC  

his message isn't the problem

2019-12-22 07:37:36 UTC  

he is the problem

2019-12-22 07:37:44 UTC  

he is hijacking a legitimate movement

2019-12-22 07:37:53 UTC  

similar to milo

2019-12-22 07:37:54 UTC  

probably a spook

2019-12-22 07:38:02 UTC  

well a lot of people think he works for the fbi

2019-12-22 07:38:04 UTC  

@qwasi i agree but America-second stuff gets rebranded as Ameriac fist

2019-12-22 07:38:07 UTC  

like all the pro Israel stuff

2019-12-22 07:38:22 UTC  

why is it bad to be pro Israel though?

2019-12-22 07:38:25 UTC  

What's good for Israel is good for America to those people, among other things

2019-12-22 07:38:39 UTC  

it's not necessarily, but it can be DEBATED, which was Michelle's point

2019-12-22 07:38:53 UTC  

case by case basis?

2019-12-22 07:38:55 UTC  

makes sense

2019-12-22 07:39:26 UTC  

there is a framework for the issue in general, but it gets broken by stuff like Israel-first, and some others

2019-12-22 07:39:36 UTC  

you can't debate it because 'antisemitism'

2019-12-22 07:39:57 UTC  

well yeah, that's how debate gets shut down for all sorts of shit nowadays

2019-12-22 07:40:03 UTC  

it's disgusting

2019-12-22 07:40:08 UTC  

The amnest/illegal thing is in the same bag because many of the donor's want the same thing

2019-12-22 07:40:26 UTC  

donor's?

2019-12-22 07:40:43 UTC  

donors, as in the Kochs and others that fund much of "Conservative Inc"

2019-12-22 07:41:17 UTC  

ah

2019-12-22 07:41:23 UTC  

If you see Michelle's recent speeches, she has had to do more low key events because she has been more or less blacklisted from some of the majors

2019-12-22 07:41:32 UTC  

why

2019-12-22 07:41:38 UTC  

because she speaks the truth?

2019-12-22 07:41:40 UTC  

Ben and Charlie have more or less slid into the spots she and others got pushed out of

2019-12-22 07:41:49 UTC  

That's one way to look at it