Message from @Sophie

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2020-03-05 16:29:31 UTC  

A price max applied below the equilibrium results in lower supply but higher demand. That’s a shortage. The firm is producing less to compensate the reduction in profits.

2020-03-05 16:29:47 UTC  

This is econ 101

2020-03-05 16:29:59 UTC  

This is why you see price controls causing shortages and surplus waste.

2020-03-05 16:30:13 UTC  

A good example is the paper I linked on drug shortages in Europe countries.

2020-03-05 16:30:30 UTC  

Again, you’re failing to consider the actual situation

2020-03-05 16:30:44 UTC  

And making bad assumptions about the shape of the curve

2020-03-05 16:31:07 UTC  

The shape is irrelevant, the point on the curve where PMAX is - is below the equilibrium

2020-03-05 16:31:19 UTC  

That causes shortages - it doesn’t matter if it’s a vaccine or a laser gun

2020-03-05 16:31:48 UTC  

That’s not correct

2020-03-05 16:32:24 UTC  

If a consumer is permanently removed from demand after ANY consumption, it changes your assumptions about the curve

2020-03-05 16:32:48 UTC  

You’re imagining a scenario in which there is indefinite demand in the long term

2020-03-05 16:33:08 UTC  

But if someone receives a vaccine tomorrow, they’re no longer generating demand, forever

2020-03-05 16:33:34 UTC  

You can’t compare it to other drugs, you can’t compare it to food, you can’t compare it to laser guns

2020-03-05 16:33:40 UTC  

You have to live in reality sometimes

2020-03-05 16:34:05 UTC  

Normally you’d talk about this as extremely inelastic demand

2020-03-05 16:34:07 UTC  

BUT

2020-03-05 16:34:18 UTC  

Because someone is REMOVED FROM THE DEMAND CURVE when they consume

2020-03-05 16:34:38 UTC  

The demand curve jumps to the left every time there’s consumption

2020-03-05 16:35:11 UTC  

So what actually happens is that without price controls, you’re only fulfilling part of the NEED even if you’re fulfilling equilibrium demand

2020-03-05 16:35:28 UTC  

But with price controls, you fulfill 100% of need

2020-03-05 16:35:47 UTC  

I don’t know how to say this without sounding condescending, so I’ll just say it

2020-03-05 16:36:00 UTC  

Sincerely; if you don’t understand, please go ask an economics professor

2020-03-05 16:36:17 UTC  

You’re still in school right? Just go ask one about the demand curve of vaccines

2020-03-05 16:36:26 UTC  

Of truly single use consumption goods

2020-03-05 16:37:01 UTC  

With low variable cost

2020-03-05 16:37:13 UTC  

Particularly when they have high front-loaded fixed costs

2020-03-05 16:41:09 UTC  

You can think of it as the inverse of a monopolistic pricing model actually- production will go till supply equals demand, non marginal

2020-03-05 16:41:42 UTC  

But that’s just a quirk

2020-03-05 17:17:29 UTC  

It doesn’t matter if it’s a “one time good”. It’s consumed over years, not at once. So demand curve is not effectively shifting but it is on equilibrium. This means a price cap will still cause shortages.

2020-03-05 17:17:59 UTC  

The equilibrium price is where shortages doesn’t occur, that means need is filled

2020-03-05 17:18:12 UTC  

@Sophie this is introductionary economics...

2020-03-05 17:23:02 UTC  

Except that it’s consumed at once, not over years.

2020-03-05 17:23:16 UTC  

Obviously yes it matters if it’s a one time use good.

2020-03-05 17:24:06 UTC  

Yes it’s introductory economics. If you had gotten further in economics the actual nuances of s/d would be explained to you

2020-03-05 17:24:11 UTC  

Sincerely, ask a professor.

2020-03-05 17:24:24 UTC  

I know you haven’t finished your degree

2020-03-05 17:25:19 UTC  

Everyone doesn’t buy the vaccine in one day. It’s over years and by different individuals and institutions.

2020-03-05 17:25:41 UTC  

First of all, no.

2020-03-05 17:25:49 UTC  

We’re talking about weeks, not years

2020-03-05 17:25:55 UTC  

Secondly, it doesn’t matter.

2020-03-05 17:26:13 UTC  

Standard s/d curves assume a RATE of market consumption