though , optimistic

i dont think construction loses out

a lot our shit infrastructure has to do with lowering cost and keeping the job economy going

idk when you look into it , seems the in-efficiencys just add cost and even the cost savings are nominal

not even worth it

our infrastructure sucks because local politicians fleece the ever fuckin living shit out of projects

oh you want to build a fiber network through my city/town, you're gonna pay

the one main reason Trump slammed steel tariffs and all that was to get US steel refineries going again when we start working on infrastructure

so we're not at the mercy of the chinks or canadians

and there's enough supply

same with aluminum tariffs, genius move, he foresaw that'll happen if we do work on infrastructure in the US again, the chinks would be the first to double triple the price and cause a shortage

oh ya for sure , its absolutely retarded how china has US at the balls for resources , in many aspects

so fucking dumb to let that happen

the other thing is companies will charge the state and federal government much more than what the projects cost, and they pay that most of the time , thats where the cost saving is bullshit in a way

which is why i always say , its not that we need more taxes , but better spending of them and way better budgets

they don't have us by the balls lol

their lives depend on us, we don't really depend on them with our lives

our politicians don't care either, cheap whores, can be bought off by the chinks for very low prices

you'd laugh at how little money some of these people in politics accept, problem is it costs the country as a whole astronomical amounts, they sell us out for cheap

what i mean is that , we use them for sooo much , a LOT of product , and resources , by the balls because we dont have the Production infastructure built here , because so much has been moved over there, and no one has even tried to seperate that reliance away from them not bush or obama trump only a tiny bit , think of how we were doing Post WW2 and whatnot

yea

we should have diversified

i think china has realized that and is trying to keep it that way buying off all kinds of property and companies and people , that way they can possible try to economically retaliate if we tried, but we HAVE to try either way and sooner than later

they'll never do that, their main tactic is selling below wholesale still, they still give loans to factories and forgive them, so they're more like grants in a sense.

they're screwed actually

in a way ya

and they hold about 2tril in US dollar holdings they cannot get rid of ever or they'll self-destruct

well always read * that china is playing all kinds of games and strings, and we arent doing shit to them afaik

I think previous admins made it seem like china was calling the shots, when they weren't, have the illusion present that we're too dependent on them, nothing can be done, so they and their friends could still profit with no questions asked

Trump is trying to get the trade deficit down with them

the dumbest things the chinks did was call his bluff with exports, like soy beans, they tried buying them elsewhere, but they cost a lot more, but trump cut a deal to sell soy beans to the EU and the EU decided to use them for biodiesel and other things in their push for going more green

its crazy when you break it down what it all points to

as a side note, fuck how much we farm in US , that shit can be cut down

@ikillu whats it pointing to

our politicians painted a picture of nothing can be done, like obama saying under 2% or 2% gdp growth or less is here to stay for a longtime in our future, and all those jobs aren't coming back

they lost their shit when trump rattled trade with china and tariffs

oh ya bullshit on the jobs not coming back lol

they were literally saying he's going to throw us in a depression recession, the fed monkeys were raising rates like lunatics too at the same time

they (china) lose at the same time though if they did that right

now the fed said no inflation worries, no rate increases for 2019 all is well, after trump and crew threatened the fed with an audit

lol