Message from @raqdog

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2018-10-29 13:13:52 UTC  

uh okay

2018-10-29 13:13:59 UTC  

so what does it have to do with this?

2018-10-29 13:14:28 UTC  

And keep in mind, this is one of the most extensive human efforts achieved to determine how to keep the ranks full

2018-10-29 13:14:48 UTC  

For times of war that could determine the outcome of whether the nation lives and dies

2018-10-29 13:15:18 UTC  

look, I don't understand why your linking irrelevant points to this.

2018-10-29 13:15:47 UTC  

10% of the population falls below this ASVAB score. There will always be homeless people and uneducated people, and people who we just don't know what to do with

2018-10-29 13:16:04 UTC  

And giving them money does not solve the issue.

2018-10-29 13:16:19 UTC  

socialism isn't free money, LOL

2018-10-29 13:16:30 UTC  

Or giving them an equal share and telling them to work for snlt does not solve it

2018-10-29 13:17:03 UTC  

They will actively make anything they touch worse. Actually they can be quite industrious.

2018-10-29 13:17:23 UTC  

But industriously stupid

2018-10-29 13:17:28 UTC  

how do we know that percentages if they haven't even been educated? That's why I advocate for universal free/heavily subsidised education, socialism isn't free money, and never will.

2018-10-29 13:17:42 UTC  

money isn't a thing in socialism anyway

2018-10-29 13:17:58 UTC  

You can't just educate everyone to the same status

2018-10-29 13:18:09 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ how well the medicine industry and education do under capitalism?

2018-10-29 13:18:14 UTC  

People are different in all sorts of ways, intelligence happens to be one of them

2018-10-29 13:18:17 UTC  

lol we have literally the most advanced facilities in the entire world

2018-10-29 13:18:22 UTC  

the best trained physicians

2018-10-29 13:18:27 UTC  

and the best universities bar non

2018-10-29 13:18:43 UTC  

that is why people from all over the world send their kids to study here and patients are sent here for special treatment

2018-10-29 13:19:13 UTC  

That's true. We have the best facilities in Nebraska where I am from

2018-10-29 13:19:25 UTC  

not to mention out of the top 20 most advanced hospitals literally *fifteen* are American

2018-10-29 13:19:29 UTC  

They send Ebola patients here all the time from across the world

2018-10-29 13:20:05 UTC  

@Egoy yea and so? heard of historical materialism? capitalism is in every way transitionary, that's why industrialisation can only happen effectively under capitalism.

2018-10-29 13:20:34 UTC  

Vampire OriToday at 8:37 AM
we have seen "how well" the education and medicine industry does in the USA under capitalism

2018-10-29 13:20:36 UTC  

objectively wrong

2018-10-29 13:20:39 UTC  

We have the Warren Buffet cancer out patient center. That's like the pinnacle of capitalism combined with medicine

2018-10-29 13:20:44 UTC  

they both have done very well under capitalism

2018-10-29 13:21:11 UTC  

once industrialised, it would begin the transition to socialism. And how many pioneers have the Soviet Union produced again, a nation almost ruined by two world wars and a civil war?

2018-10-29 13:21:38 UTC  

you realize historical materialism isnt an airtight theory

2018-10-29 13:21:42 UTC  

there are many criticisms to it

2018-10-29 13:22:03 UTC  

lmao soviet union literally played catch up the entire cold war

2018-10-29 13:22:21 UTC  

even when they tried to copy our technologies they couldnt match up

2018-10-29 13:22:37 UTC  

they simply could not allocate resources efficiently at all

2018-10-29 13:22:43 UTC  

Prisoners??? At least we aren't running gulags

2018-10-29 13:22:47 UTC  

Obviously, compare the Russian empire to the USA at the onset of WW1. One practically industrialised and one was rural and agrarian.

2018-10-29 13:23:02 UTC  

comparing the SU and the USA is comparing apples to oranges

2018-10-29 13:23:06 UTC  

Have you even read the gulag archipelago??

2018-10-29 13:23:12 UTC  

was it because the "intellectual" bolsheviks killed off everyone useful?

2018-10-29 13:23:24 UTC  

seems normal for communist revolutions

2018-10-29 13:23:26 UTC  

and yet, just 40 years after the Russian revolution, the SU launched the first satellite N space.