Message from @nickk
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Thank you for the argument. I still do not support trump but your paragraph has enlightened me a bit more. Thank you for using facts to support your argument.
Wow sjw
@fruial Same I could say about your statement, thanks and I hope things work out for you and your family
Trump—and by extension, much of the GOP—is against *legal* immigration. They call it "chain migration", which is when family members sponsor other family members in other countries to come over. That is how most legal immigration occurs.
It is, and always has been, stemmed in deep racism that has plagued the GOP for a long time.
@powerlifter Also, those tariffs created ten thousand jobs for steel workers, that's true. But there's one overlooked fact: Hundreds of thousands of jobs in industries reliant on cheap raw steel and aluminum will be lost.
It is not "deep racism" at all- First of, if it was truly racism, this would only apply to the "race" that you're applying restrictions againts - I'd like you to point out to bill that is racially motivated for that. Second of all - the actual racists were actually democrats - Democratic leaders would attribute Ku Klux Klan violence to poorer southern whites, the organization’s membership crossed class lines, from small farmers and laborers to planters, lawyers, merchants, physicians and ministers... Third of all, If every American were to sponsor every relative of his, immigration rate would exponentially incline and you can already see how this would effect the economy, security of a country that should put it's citizens first. It is not racially motivated as they can still apply for VISA and come legally, if it was truly racially motivated - the people of certain color wouldbe declined to even sign up for one. He holds such stance due to examples of terrorists/bombers, entering the country via the family sponsored visa. He is not againts legal immigration, he showed his dissatisfaction towards current immigration policies, example the one involving thousands immigration judges. He is not a racist, black unemployement rate rising and black approval for president Trump continues to rise so if anything it's the media that uses accusations such as "racism"... Now as for Trump's proposal, it would reward points based on high-paying job offers, past achievements, English-language ability and education. All of that would be taken into account when green card applications are considered. The higher the score, the more likely an immigrant would be admitted to the United States... Is race included anywhere here?
Now, when you go in and try and claim something is "racist" you can't just throw the term like most SJW's do,when they don't agree with something,you should have proof of said racism.
He's not racist, altho burden of proof is not on me to proof that but why is it, that he started getting accused of racism WHEN he run for presidency? Let's not forget this is the man that won "Diversity and tolerance" award, alongside with Rosa Parks, Ali https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2016/09/trump-immigrant.jpg
prove*
That was over 30 years ago, what the Democratic Party was like a century ago is irrelevant, and Trump called for 4 innocent black men and a Hispanic man to be executed and has yet to apologize.
Also people *did* say he was racist before he ran for President.
You need to look up what is definition of racism, nothing here implies he is racist, if you are famous you will eventually get ACCUSED(key-word) of things you haven't done. Where did he point out hatred for race of COLOR? Or is it your assertion that if he's insulted someone that is black , he automaticly hates black people? First of all, just because he has accused a BLACK MAN, Hispanic man - that does not mean he hates them because of THEIR color (you seem not to get that) - second of all, have you read the article? He has called for execution of five men who were ARRESTED AT THE TIME for rape, allegedly attacked 28-year-old woman when she was jogging in Central Park. He has shown his concern for civil rights and liberties, if you read his ad you'd actually see that NOTHING there implied he hates them because of their color, rather because of them raping this woman (they were arrested AND confessed, so based on that he has made the following ad - which a sexist wouldn't do btw, he's also being accused of being a sexist but w/e, that's a different story). Again, you seem not to understand that he is simply not a racist - He has employed people of color before, approval rate of them for Trump is rising, so is their employement. So you have yet to post actual proof of his racial discrimination such as this one, that hasn't been over 30 years ago (altho Democrats have been proven to shift sides to get the votes). Is this also 30 years ago? https://patriargate.com/obama-praises-south-african-leader-for-his-actions/ Those are ACTUAL racially-motivated violent crimes.
why the fuck are we getting so upset over what people say?
think about what boris johnson said about muslims
over half of the people upset at him over it aren't even muslim
democrats are using minorities as bargaining chips
Free votes
People still support trump even though he’s going to be trialed for impeachment lol
why the fuck are you even here if you dont support him
As if Mueller witch-hunt has any proofs whatsoever.
People use the immigrants as free votes alright.
My father used to work on roads,an immigrant lady totalled her car and tried to say it was their fault.
The cops came and she used her daughter to say the cones weren't supposed to be there,I think they practically gave her a license for free.
@Signals Intel Agent I was stating my political view and opinion, I am not a SJW.
@Shark because i enjoy arguing with uncultivated people who think trump is doing a good job
Question from a non-Trump supporter - why do you still like him even though he's a proven pathological liar? He's gone from saying that "there was no meeting with Russians", to "there was a meeting with Russians, but there was no collusion", to "there may have been collusion, but collusion is not a crime". There's no talk of a lot of his policies from his election campaign - there's no wall, he hasn't locked up Hillary Clinton... Why do you trust him, and think he's the best man for the job?
(And before someone says "Obama lied too" - yes, I'm sure most politicians do, which is a shame, but not nearly to the same pathological extent as Trump does.)
because he's not doing anything bad
and if this collusion narrative is happening (which frankly i believe it's not) is it personally affecting you?
I'd definitely disagree with that - he pulled out of the Paris Agreement, he enacted the Muslim Ban, his incendiary comments have isolated America from the rest of the world, meaning that it will be harder to have trade in the future, his tax policy has been built to benefit the richest members of society at the expense of everyone else, his steel tariff, as an example, was an extremely poorly thought out plan that had a large negative impact on the economy. So I definitely think he's doing a lot that's bad.
And it does affect me as a resident. I believe in a democracy, and if he's colluding, that's undermining that right for a nation to choose its leader without outside interference.
as far as the muslim ban goes, if you look at the statistics, the crime rate rises as more refugees come in
look at london in the uk for example
the crime rate has risen
look man i'd love to discuss this more with you, but unfortunately it's a school night for me and i need to sleep
we can continue this tomorrow if you'd like