Message from @Dr. Λᵐᵉʳᶤᶜᵃ
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my limit is no abolishment of drugs but rather offer big funds for reform programs like drug abuse victims
> No one has the personal liberty to commit a crime
***If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.***
@DangerErin I can support that
That's beautiful and everything, but laws exist for a reason
Otherwise, whether a law is unjust or not is just the opinion of that person
What makes you believe you're right about drug laws being unjust but a pedophile that think laws against CP ain't?
Depends on the laws tbh, many have roots in issues, others are based purely in emotion not in logic
The drug war has not been a success, its been a colossal waste of funds, when it should be targeting those who truly violate federal law and harm people, and putting in systems to support users and making it safe for people
instead it punishes everyone and costs everyone
Again, it doesn't work because there's always people like you and your friend fueling it
The legalization of marijuana has shown that lax laws and decriminalization allow funding of proper support systems
Libertarians love to claim the drug war doesn't work, while pumping those criminals with money
Even if you support legalization, the very least you could do is to not fuel crime by buying illegal drugs
If you think we should ban something like pot, then you must claim we ban something like alcohol or tobacco
We have decades of evidence showing the detrimental effects of both of them, and the decades of research into marijuana show far less side effects
I do lmao
Then thats fine
I can understand why
I just dont agree
Laws like any political systems has backdoors
abolish cocaine? guess what Big Tobacco groups are currently growing Opioid field in Afghanistan and selling it back here in the US to black markets that poverties like abusing in minority groups
I also get it being against that, but I can't help but point the hypocrisy of claiming the drug war doesn't work while financing the people the government are trying to fight
Crimes are committed with money from weed sales, like it or not
friend of mine started growing shrooms off a cow pasture and using occasionally to treat his depression
Friend of his found out and a couple others, he got into selling and thats that
From personal experience, from the research Ive seen, said compound can be helpful to people and Ive seen people benefit from it
I do not agree with the government outright banning a potential medication and restricting research
I wont delve into my history much here anymore, but I will say when I was working in a lab getting our hands on something basic like THC was a pain in the ass and required DEA and FDA authorization
a means to properly research them
Make safer drugs, safer treatments for people, stop targeting users
That's an alrighty point of view and everything, but the moment you choose to buy illegal drugs you completely ignore the consequences of what happens next
True, not gonna deny it
But I fall on the side of Jefferson
I see such laws currently as unconstitutional
The legality of the law doesn't change the outcome of your behavior
And in regards to marijuana, my state voted legalization so my holding pot and using doesnt change anything
Feds cant touch me on that
Just like buying legal drugs from illegal sources
As long as you're buying legal from legal sources, I'm cool with it
People have the right to do dumb, legal shit
if I had a nickel for every person ive known over the last 30 years dipping into pharmaceutical illegal trade I'd have a solid investment into my 401k
What they don't have the right to do though, is thinking their moral superiority regarding legalization allows them to disregard the consequences of buying illegal drugs
the current system doesnt work, the evidence doesnt support it, I just want to see it revised and more in line with proper lines of research, proper lines of law enforcement
Pretty sure evidence doesn't support your case either
As I said, do some research about the state of things in Netherlands
If we look back on history, like the evidence towards LSD research we see that for the few people who had psychological breakdowns, the majority did not
MKUltra failed
thats the kind of backdoor im talking about, legalize weed and there will be companies or group that make the potency stronger and more harmful than how it was before. Like vaccines, a cure for a disease is great but evil groups can jack it and put toxic metals in it thus making the population controllable and more dependent on the legality of things
I would say at that point we need a proper system to support true research, with funding put into means of testing outside of those influences