Message from @Islamic Straight

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2020-01-26 05:53:15 UTC  

If we look back on history, like the evidence towards LSD research we see that for the few people who had psychological breakdowns, the majority did not

2020-01-26 05:53:29 UTC  

MKUltra failed

2020-01-26 05:53:33 UTC  

thats the kind of backdoor im talking about, legalize weed and there will be companies or group that make the potency stronger and more harmful than how it was before. Like vaccines, a cure for a disease is great but evil groups can jack it and put toxic metals in it thus making the population controllable and more dependent on the legality of things

2020-01-26 05:54:04 UTC  

I would say at that point we need a proper system to support true research, with funding put into means of testing outside of those influences

2020-01-26 05:54:15 UTC  

My issue with drugs are mostly moral, but we simply can't ignore the fact that even recreational drugs have unwanted consequences to other people

2020-01-26 05:54:18 UTC  

Tobacco tried this for decades and lost over time

2020-01-26 05:54:39 UTC  

DUI, passive smokers, all of that shit

2020-01-26 05:54:44 UTC  

Weed is just one of them

2020-01-26 05:55:49 UTC  

I mean I'd argue psilocybin and LSD in my life have made me more understanding and empathetic to people

I use pot for chronic pain from damaged nerves and torn muscles and that helps with less consequences than opioids

I drink to relax every few days to every few weeks and my liver comes back normal

My history in chemistry and biology gives me this perspective, I wont deny it, but I think just flat out ignoring the benefits of anything is poor choice

2020-01-26 05:56:43 UTC  

Yeah, like canabidiol, it's a good composite extracted from the sativa, but weed also has THC, which is mostly harmful

2020-01-26 05:56:51 UTC  

what would be your take on porn?

2020-01-26 05:57:06 UTC  

The problem is that people either want it everything legal or everything illegal

2020-01-26 05:57:17 UTC  

THC is not that harmful tbh, it doesnt cause permanent damage to most people

and I think thats the key bit the FDA often ignores (most people)

2020-01-26 05:57:19 UTC  

I never thought much of porn

2020-01-26 05:57:26 UTC  

Actually it does

2020-01-26 05:58:01 UTC  

I wouldnt say everything legal

I would more go to the side of decriminalized use

If someone sells a can of beer to someone underage they're a piece of shit ignoring the evidence for harm to developing brains

2020-01-26 05:58:25 UTC  

It increases your chance of developing schizophrenia by 6 times, there's evidence of causing sterility, short and medium memory lost

2020-01-26 05:58:51 UTC  

Besides psychological dependence

2020-01-26 05:58:53 UTC  

I need to see those studies tbh, Ive delved into THC research before and I didnt see any statistically significant factors for that

2020-01-26 05:59:08 UTC  

Psychological dependence is not a defense, that forms with all compounds

2020-01-26 05:59:37 UTC  

I mean that psychological dependence is a factor to consider harmful, not that it's exclusive

2020-01-26 05:59:47 UTC  

Yeah, true, not exclusive

2020-01-26 05:59:58 UTC  

and psychological dependence is a field itself in psychology and psychiatry

2020-01-26 06:00:04 UTC  

but we cannot blame compounds for that

2020-01-26 06:00:14 UTC  

its a human issue anyone can develop in the right circumstance

2020-01-26 06:00:47 UTC  

Unfortunately, many pharmaceutical drugs that are pretty much needed to cure some diseases are prone to causing psychological dependence

2020-01-26 06:01:39 UTC  

Ive been prescribed opioids before and taken them for extended periods for work related injuries and after losing the drug I felt miserable, I had the right brain to push through and not turn to the black market to support them and went through withdrawal

But you wont see me arguing to make those drugs illegal, some of my own research dealt with those drugs, some of my own clinicals saw people benefit from them

2020-01-26 06:02:05 UTC  

The point I am trying to make is that we have not done the right research even into compounds like CBD or THC

2020-01-26 06:02:24 UTC  

Let alone research into other psychedelics or other compounds

2020-01-26 06:02:28 UTC  

Porn like drugs can be addicting and have psychological defectives so its not a question of it being legal or illegal but stats have shown that there are different results like porn ruining marriages to men losing their restraint and moving more over to child porn to even causing incest or sexual abuses in public

2020-01-26 06:02:37 UTC  

Flat out banning something is a dangerous slippery slope

2020-01-26 06:03:43 UTC  

I still believe outright banning is better than outright allowing as a preemptive measure

2020-01-26 06:04:11 UTC  

Maybe we are just in the phase of transition

2020-01-26 06:04:13 UTC  

Preemptive maybe, I might agree to that, so long as we remain intellectually honest and allow proper research and laws to be put in place

2020-01-26 06:04:21 UTC  

and the means to defend users vs suppliers

2020-01-26 06:05:04 UTC  

Ive seen addiction in people firsthand and locking them away with no treatment is not right, its not, seeing lives ruined because someone couldnt be weened off a drug is horrible

2020-01-26 06:05:47 UTC  

But with the data available from places like Netherlands and Uruguay, I don't really think we are in an inevitable transition from prohibiting to allowing, at least in general

2020-01-26 06:06:36 UTC  

We should be focused on destroying the illegal market at the same time as we treat the victims

2020-01-26 06:06:43 UTC  

I agree to that too

I think we're getting closer to where I want to see things

A means to take a compound, research it, find alterations, alternatives, build systems of support, and make it work

2020-01-26 06:06:59 UTC  

but I also dont like seeing people go to jail because they get caught with a plant

2020-01-26 06:07:30 UTC  

I just think that in the end, we won't inevitably move towards legalization, many countries did that or similar, it didn't work