Message from @beardedchimp
Discord ID: 679223679472893963
im out
ok gay
I'm not a big fan of trump, but with how the democrats behave, I don't want the democrats to win. Felt the same about hilary, as a foreigner (Irish) I was dreading her as president
I'd be extremely happy with bernie though
But bernie != democrats
If I had a Democrat win it would be bernie
But only because his policies are so extreme that the senate and the house wouldn’t approve anything
Say what you will about bernie in terms of his politics, but the man has integrity unlike most of the democrat establishment.
Seriously, the Democrats fuck up Iowa so totally and completely, then I read there was 4 hour queues in Nevada for early voting. Are you trying to show everyone how inept they are?
that doesnt say much about him
You think, oh fuck, Iowa went badly lets make sure we devote a lot of resources to Nevada so we don't look like fools again...
ok, so, you like bernie, why?
@beardedchimp bold of you to assume libs think
what are your reasons to support him?
Any politician who has been around a while and sticks to their convictions deserves some respect, even if you disagree with their view.
I'm Irish and live in Manchester, so I don't support him, I'm not american
same question, different phrasing
But id be happy if he was the next us president. In fact any US president that wants to cut military spending and stop getting involved abroad will make me happy
Man, Hilary would have been so fucking drone happy
do you have other concerns or?
Well the concerns you have are very different from mine, healthcare etc.
yes, but that doesnt mean your opinion as a foreigner is completely invalid and means nothing
Yeah of course, I just mean the reasons I'd be happy with Bernie are not necessarily related to what you consider important
i mean, you wanting less military is one of the reasons i wont vote for him, im a supporter of our military.
So Bernie for example, I don't think he would sell out to the big corporations and let them control the world
Yeah exactly, but I as someone not american have not been a fan of US foreign policy over the last 40 years
So the US winding down its spending to sustain foreign wars is a good thing in my mind.
Girlfriend wants me to say hello, back in 10 minutes
do you believe trump would do or is doing that? do you believe that bernie would do a better or worse compared to trump here specificall?
So I really didn't want Hilary to win because I see her as an absolute extension of the US military-industrial complex. Now I'm not a fan of a lot of Trumps policys, but him saying to put US first and stop interfering elsewhere sounded great. But you have to look at it honestly, its 3 years later and the US still is fucking around all over the middle east (and elsewhere).
I can understand you supporting the US military, but I don't understand why that requires budget increases unless you are actually spending that money in trivial wars as they are now
Like the US military is already so incredibly dominant, I don't see why more money needs to be spent unless its because you want to keep actually using your military abroad.
An example is the assassination of Soleimani. I really cannot understand why Trump wanted to do that, its not like the guy was some imminent threat to the US and the only way to stop it was to kill him. All the justifications seem to be around that he was planning more mass death in the middle east, but why should Trump care to intervene in that case?
Oh, by the way, last week I joined the democrats discord for the first time. I ended up being permanently banned after I told them that I joined several right/far right discords so I could better understand their opinion. My driving point was that calling everyone deplorables and racists didn't work last time and it won't work this time. Why not actually engage with people who disagree with you. anddddddd...... banned.
<:MODS:624688733211328542>
<:fuckoff:624681484326010920>
<:deport:670895539012894720>
hey gamers
video games
I’ll knock you both out