now we live across the street from them lol

i greatly appreciate these discussions the most btw

i wish it was as simple to engage leftists

i do try

if they will at least not completely shut down its sometimes mildly productive

mfw parents live their lives but want to live through their children selfishly

Like who I like. Work where I wish I could have worked

@Cringing Look at you making peace in the end 💯
@Kekistani American Yeah they don't like to have a hard think. I think it's because they're arguing primarily from rhetoric and they don't know precisely what their Marxist axioms truly are

@Ed Irrational beliefs like "words are violence" cause that

too many useful idiots, yeah

the usual result i get is "ok, now that you've explained yourself, i get where you're coming from, i just still disagree", which is already infinitely better than everyone on the right being racist Nazis

If having even the idea in your head is verboten, then thinking is considered taboo

But that's exactly the thing

You have to discuss an uphill talk just to get of the point of their benefit of the doubt

They have no intellectual charity because they're so afraid of touching the wrongthink

benefit of the doubt and good faith discourse would be night and day compared to current climate

even at 1% success rate i keep trying

meh

forgive me for trying to avoid a civil war with my countrymen down the line

😛

They think religiously, not rationally. Anything against their ideology is the equivalent of satan

A civil war we would win

I think we're due for one

I do think there is a limit to how many we can reach

and I say that as a parent

it's almost complete charity that we try to avoid it

but it's a worthwhile cause

while we stockpile arms

unfortunately we dont exist in a vacuum, the world wont wait for us to quietly settle our hard reset

tru

Remember what Thomas Paine wrote

I believe God would not let us be destroyed in a war in which we tried to avoid it with all our reason and wisdom

We try for peace as far as we can, and when it inevitably might go to war

Oh well

Once the war is started, however, I plan to win

The ottomans conquered constantinople despite the byzantines best efforts to both negotiate and appeal to the christian world... unless shown otherwise my assumption is wars are won by your own hands

although i dont claim to know

I'm gonna go take my girlfriend of 6 years out on a date and then pay for it, lowering my social credit score accordingly

i am agnostic myself

so i'll see everybody later, adios

What I'm saying is that it is foolish to rush into wars