Message from @plec

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2020-03-17 17:02:38 UTC  

You're assuming humans are responsible.

2020-03-17 17:02:45 UTC  

That stimulates the economy... I don’t understand? Be the one that starts a business in your community

2020-03-17 17:02:58 UTC  

Venezuela outcome

2020-03-17 17:03:05 UTC  

No....

2020-03-17 17:03:40 UTC  

If y’all want I can send you studies from economist on the issue. Maybe reading it will clear things up?

2020-03-17 17:03:55 UTC  

A very small percentage of working class would be ok with UBI period

2020-03-17 17:03:57 UTC  

Maybe I’m not explaining things properly.

2020-03-17 17:04:17 UTC  

No, you're just dumb.

2020-03-17 17:04:18 UTC  

Don’t want to read something that is a bad idea

2020-03-17 17:04:25 UTC  

i'm down to read it lol

2020-03-17 17:04:30 UTC  

76 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. 51 percent of that says they can’t afford an unexpected $500 bill

2020-03-17 17:04:46 UTC  

Many of these people are middle class Americans.

2020-03-17 17:05:19 UTC  

Sucks for them. People lose in Capitalism. It's the price we pay for... Not being in gulags

2020-03-17 17:05:35 UTC  

i could see liquidation of welfare being more of a conservative idea that reduces overhead and government spending.

2020-03-17 17:05:37 UTC  

I guess I just have a different mentality and that’s ok

2020-03-17 17:05:38 UTC  

There are winners and losers

2020-03-17 17:06:03 UTC  

Ok but we’re all humans and we should help each other. Especially if an idea will bring us ahead economically

2020-03-17 17:06:10 UTC  

I’d actually be interested in a study of eliminating welfare

2020-03-17 17:06:20 UTC  

Our GDP is being carried by giant tech companies right now

2020-03-17 17:06:46 UTC  

Yes that’s humans help each other through non profits churches etc not government involvement

2020-03-17 17:06:58 UTC  

People should be dependent on people, not the government. "Welfare" should be charity, not a human right

2020-03-17 17:07:06 UTC  

You never count on government for that

2020-03-17 17:08:03 UTC  

liquidation of welfare is not the same as ubi too.

2020-03-17 17:08:22 UTC  

See that’s the main difference between Lou and others Lou wants government to decide and I don’t

2020-03-17 17:08:32 UTC  

I don’t want government to decide

2020-03-17 17:08:52 UTC  

I’d be good with ridding ourselves of welfare in general probably the worst thing USA has done

2020-03-17 17:08:57 UTC  

But we might as well use the government for something useful. Did you guys know DC is the richest city/state in the country?

2020-03-17 17:09:26 UTC  

All these politicians becoming millionaires while the average middle class American continues to lose

2020-03-17 17:09:29 UTC  

gee i wonder why

2020-03-17 17:09:54 UTC  

So instead of arguing we can fix it. Why do you think the government would never support UBI many of them are funded by giant tech companies.

2020-03-17 17:09:54 UTC  

Off our taxes dude

2020-03-17 17:10:14 UTC  

well theyre funded by us.

2020-03-17 17:10:34 UTC  

I would argue you can even get rid off income tax through Value Added Tax

2020-03-17 17:11:01 UTC  

@lou777 is the average middle class American better off now than they was 10-20 years ago?

2020-03-17 17:11:26 UTC  

Now with people being laid off with the corona virus?

2020-03-17 17:11:40 UTC  

Still are they better off?

2020-03-17 17:11:45 UTC  

Not this instant. But a few months ago yes.

2020-03-17 17:12:20 UTC  

I would hope. It doesn’t change the fact that things will get worst in the future for a lot of middle class Americans

2020-03-17 17:12:22 UTC  

😐

2020-03-17 17:12:37 UTC  

Especially white Americans in rural areas. Coal jobs arent coming back.

2020-03-17 17:12:42 UTC  

Middle class are always worst off to million/billionaires. But they still going to be better off than the last middle class generation