Message from @kaseywasey
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dont speak in vague generalities. be specific.
We dont force anyone to do anything @kaseywasey
other than pay taxes
we founded the country on the pursuit of happiness and if someone's pursuit of happiness is forming a family with two moms or dads then so be it
Saying I would prefer my children not to be gay is not homophobic or bigoted.
a nuclear family always has been an option
i can be a heroin addict and say im happy
Yeah but that’s happiness for the parents, not the kids. There for the parents suck and are fucking up their kids for what’s best for them
> we founded the country on the pursuit of happiness and if someone's pursuit of happiness is forming a family with two moms or dads then so be it
@kaseywasey forcing a child to have two moms or dads, the poor kid doesnt have say in what goes on here now does he?
peoples definition of happiness isnt a gauge of societal health
do it then. its not my business of what you do with your body
Parents make sacrifices for kids, kids should not be making the sacrifices
the kid doesnt have a say when their parents are their parents either, like when kids have abusive parents. they dont have a say in what goes on there
If you have kids and you want the best outcome, you bring them up in a nuclear family. That’s very very very well shown in the data
if you have kids and want the best outcome, raise them to be hard workers and over achievers
> the kid doesnt have a say when their parents are their parents either, like when kids have abusive parents. they dont have a say in what goes on there
@kaseywasey quite the straw man arguement. We can make child abuse illegal. Just like how we can make two people of the same sex raising a child illegal. Glad you could point that out
theres nothing disagreeable about that but unfortunately the reality of the problem is that not every single parent does that or can do that.
if you want to force them to do it then you're forcing conformity.
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Children need a strong male and female in their life to psychologically develop too. You can’t teach over achievement if they have fucked up psychology
but why make two people raising a child illegal? why does it matter whos raising this kid if theyre raising them to be strong workers that will help this country?
thats not illegal lol
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> Children need a strong male and female in their life to psychologically develop too. You can’t teach over achievement if they have fucked up psychology
@Kako date a girl with daddy issues and youll understand this 100%
It doesn’t raise strong workers, you’re hung up on anecdotes
it doesnt. thats not the point either.
im a girl with mommy issues and im top 20 graduating high school with my associates degree. Your point?
@Drawgs_and_Pawgs I liked this girl that had daddy issues. In private she likes to fuck over men and now I won’t date her
you're still arguing on surface level value judgments. start with identifying the problem. dont read the news. you're probably smart enough to make your own judgments.
> im a girl with mommy issues and im top 20 graduating high school with my associates degree. Your point?
@kaseywasey imagine braggingi about an associates degree
thats not the point im bringing up? private family issues dont mean someone isnt successful
> im a girl with mommy issues and im top 20 graduating high school with my associates degree. Your point?
@kaseywasey "high school" Okay that explains it
but they dont mean someone isnt a failure either. the issue is in the framing of your statement
Your other problem @kaseywasey you don’t identify solutions, only things you dislike about the current system. Not how to make it better. Just harping on your own preferences and nothing scientifically validated
you're arguing in generalities. i agree with a lot of it. but thats not how you really analyze a problem
explains what @Drawgs_and_Pawgs
"black crime isnt an issue because Im black and I dont commit crime"
^^^ Your arguement
You know what will make immigration better? Let people do a test. If they score good, they're allowed in, if not, they have to go back.
That's what they wanna do here.
that doesnt make any sense. people around me who were raised either by one parent or even none are succeeding
"many blacks dont commit crime"
true. but dont look away from the big issue at hand. dont ignore it. ignoring it wont make it go away. You should want to take action and do something about it. really try and understand whats going on. its not simple stuff.