Message from @kaseywasey
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there are also children without nuclear families that excel the same way
But on average that’s very rare, you are ignoring the statistics in favor of anecdotes
> there are also children without nuclear families that excel the same way
@kaseywasey But far less prevalent
> you have to approach these things in a pragmatic quantifying way
what are the actual numbers? how do you prioritize it all? what are the outliers
If u have the wrong opinion, ur a bigot. If u think the nuclear family is ideal, ur a bigot. If u think they shouldn’t be teaching kids about sex: bigot.
Etc etc I’m sure u see my point.
They don’t wanna be “tolerated.” They wanna be deified
i guess, but even then we cant say all people without nuclear families dont excel
Most don’t though...
thats the issue^
> i guess, but even then we cant say all people without nuclear families dont excel
@kaseywasey less likely to excel
but a lot still do. its like saying all kids who were raised with two parents do good when a lot dont
most/many dont. so you have to ask why before espousing values we all agree with.
quantify it. look at data yourself. make your own conclusions. doubt your current views.
whats the point of going away from a nuclear family if you are less likely to excel?
If you took a group of people where everyone has 2 parents, a mother and father. Compared it with non-binary or single/no parents. They nuclear kids will be x100 richer
Is there a purpose here?
Because they aren’t struggling to find dinner, they will be happier too
Smoke blunts wit kako, peel more skins that idaho potato
Like I remember a dude getting mad at me for saying I think gayness is sinful, but I ain’t gonna screech and claw because I ain’t the one judging them at the pearly gates.
Didn’t matter to them tho. It’s either total conformity and celebration or ur an intolerant bigot
for happiness. if my mom told me she wanted to be a woman to be happy and abandon the nuclear family it wouldnt be a problem because i know im still a hard worker. its alway the kids choice a to whether or not they wanna work hard
These libs are annoying. Decent conversation is fine but hey dont understand facts/statistics
Would you? Or would it cause unforeseen psychological defects in you that aren’t intuitive
it doesnt mean kids who are raised in single parent households are less valuable. if anything we need to prioritize their health and develop policies that set them up for success.
Like u can’t even have a differing view than them
The data clearly shows having 2 moms < 1 mom + 1 dad
> it doesnt mean kids who are raised in single parent households are less valuable. if anything we need to prioritize their health and develop policies that set them up for success.
@saturn broker agreed
the data may show that, but if we make every person in this country conform to that then is it really a free country? for following that?
Cultural imposition of values is not tyranny.
dont speak in vague generalities. be specific.
We dont force anyone to do anything @kaseywasey
other than pay taxes
we founded the country on the pursuit of happiness and if someone's pursuit of happiness is forming a family with two moms or dads then so be it
Saying I would prefer my children not to be gay is not homophobic or bigoted.
a nuclear family always has been an option
i can be a heroin addict and say im happy
Yeah but that’s happiness for the parents, not the kids. There for the parents suck and are fucking up their kids for what’s best for them
> we founded the country on the pursuit of happiness and if someone's pursuit of happiness is forming a family with two moms or dads then so be it
@kaseywasey forcing a child to have two moms or dads, the poor kid doesnt have say in what goes on here now does he?
peoples definition of happiness isnt a gauge of societal health
do it then. its not my business of what you do with your body
Parents make sacrifices for kids, kids should not be making the sacrifices